Template talk:Did you know

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to navigation Jump to search
For instructions on how to nominate an article, see below.
"Did you know..."
Discussion WT:DYK
Rules WP:DYK
Supplementary rules WP:DYKSG
Noms (awaiting approval) WP:DYKN
Reviewing guide WP:DYKR
Noms (approved) WP:DYKNA
Preps and queues T:DYK/Q
Currently on the Main Page
Main Page errors WP:ERRORS
Archive of DYKs WP:DYKA
Stats WP:DYKSTATS
April 1 hooks WP:DYKAPRIL
April 1 talk WT:DYKAPRIL

This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page, by a "hook" (an interesting note). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area, from which the articles are promoted into the Queue.

  • Click here to "purge" this page (if it looks like updates to subsidiary templates aren't being reflected).

Contents

Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
June 2 1 1
June 3 1
June 29 1
July 1 2
July 14 1
July 18 1
July 22 1
July 24 1
July 28 1 1
July 30 1
August 3 1 1
August 4 1
August 7 1
August 9 1
August 10 1 1
August 12 2
August 14 2
August 15 1
August 17 3
August 18 1
August 22 1
August 24 1
August 26 2
August 28 1
August 29 1
August 31 1 1
September 1 2 1
September 2 2 1
September 3 4
September 5 3 2
September 6 4 2
September 7 3 1
September 8 1
September 9 5 2
September 10 5 3
September 11 5 2
September 12 9 4
September 13 8 5
September 14 9 6
September 15 7 4
September 16 5 4
September 17 10 8
September 18 6 2
September 19 6 4
September 20 7 4
September 21 3
September 22 7 1
September 23 2
Total 145 61
Last updated 06:43, 23 September 2019 UTC
Current time is 07:50, 23 September 2019 UTC [refresh]

Instructions for nominators

  • WP:DYKNOM

Create a subpage for your new DYK suggestion and then list the page below under the date the article was created or the expansion began or it became a good article (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any registered user may nominate a DYK suggestion (if you are not a registered user, please leave a message at the bottom of the DYK project talk page with the details of the article you would like to nominate and the hook you would like to propose); self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination (consider watchlisting your nomination page).

If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing:
Official DYK criteria: DYK rules and supplementary guidelines
Unofficial guide: Learning DYK

To nominate an article

Read these instructions completely before proceeding.
For simplified instructions, see User:Rjanag/Quick DYK 2.
I.
Create the nomination subpage.

Enter the article title in the box below and click the button. (To nominate multiple articles together, enter any or all of the article titles.) You will then be taken to a preloaded nomination page.


II.
Write the nomination.

On the nomination page, fill in the relevant information. See Template:NewDYKnomination and {{NewDYKnomination/guide}} for further information.

  • Not every line of the template needs to be filled in. For instance, if you are not nominating an image to appear with your hook, there is no need to fill in the image-related lines.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
  • Make sure the nomination page is on your watchlist, so you can follow the review discussion.
III.

In the current nominations section find the subsection for the date on which the article was created or on which expansion began (or, if a new Good Article, the date on which it became a GA), not the date on which you make the nomination.

  • At the top of that subsection (before other nominations already there, but below the section head and hidden comment) add {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}}.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
  • Consider adding {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}} to the article's talk page (without a section heading‍—‌the template adds a section heading automatically).

How to review a nomination

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
  • Save the page.

If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Frequently asked questions

Backlogged?

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first (so that those hooks don't grow stale), it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions above).

Where is my hook?

If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.

Search archived DYK nomination discussions

Instructions for other editors

How to promote an accepted hook

  • See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for full instructions.
  • Hooks that have been approved are located on the approved nominations page.
  • In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote.
  • In another window, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.
  • In the prep set...
    • Paste the hook into the hook area (be sure to not paste in that that)
    • Paste the credit information ({{DYKmake}} and/or {{DYKnom}}) into the credits area.
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted [[Jane Fonda]]", preview, and save
  • Back on DYK nomination page...
    • change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • change |passed= to |passed=yes
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted to Prep 3", preview, and save

How to remove a rejected hook

  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue

  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name

  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

Nominations

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on June 3

Kang Woo-kyu

  • ... that Kang Woo-kyu was a fighter for Korean independence during the Japanese colonial period? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Won96 (talk). Self-nominated at 08:45, 3 June 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @Won96: Hey, I've given a bit of polish to the hook. The article is a strong start but it needs a bit of copyediting. (I've also done some to the hook, adding a link.) I don't think I'm the right person for the job, though, since I'm not a topic expert and I don't speak Korean. While the article is new enough out of mainspace, long enough and has a good density of citations, I strongly advise you to take it to WP:GOCE and have someone with more familiarity with Korean copyedit this for you. Raymie (tc) 18:28, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Since the above review, now over a month and a half old, the article has been moved from "Kang Woo Kyu" to "Kang Woo-kyu" (I've just adjusted the template accordingly; it should not itself be moved!), but it was never submitted to the Guild of Copy Editors (at WP:GOCER) and has since been tagged as needing a copyedit. It cannot be approved at DYK without that copyedit, so I strongly suggest that it be submitted there at once. I have pinged Won96's talk page; hopefully they will see this, as they haven't edited on Wikipedia for about six weeks, since before the copyedit tag was added to the article. (Note: requests at GOCE average about three weeks to get done; articles tagged by others typically take four to five months to be selected and completed.) Best of luck! BlueMoonset (talk) 01:46, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Guild of Copy Editors have finished their copy edit. Needs another look and review. -- Thats Just Great (talk) 17:55, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg I can see that this is much improved, but I think it still needs some work, and probably from someone who can read the Korean sources. The article creator User:Won96 has not edited since mid June 2019, so may not be around to help. Another Korean editor has also contributed to the article, so I will ping them too, in case they can help. @Byeori Kim:
Eg, in the Early life section, "Kang was born in Deokcheon, Pyeongan-do, Joseon. He spent his childhood in Jinju, Gyeongsang Province and Miryang, Gyeongsang-do. Kang studied Korean medicine from a young age after returning home from Deokcheon, Pyeongan-do." - should that be returning home to Deokcheon? Otherwise it doesn't seem to make sense.
And another example, "he moved to Hongwon, Hamkyong-do, where he served as a Korean medicine doctor while teaching children Neo-Confucianism. ... Kang was mainly engaged in commerce in Hongwon, reportedly going to Hongwon for a large sum of money when he took the initiative. He ran a general merchandise store with his son Jung Geon on Nammun Street in the center of Hongwon. The store mainly sold paint, cigarette stands, and cotton seals. At the same time, he lent the traders money at low interest."
So, he was a doctor, he taught children, and he was engaged in commerce - but mainly engaged? And what does "reportedly going to Hongwon for a large sum of money when he took the initiative" mean? What are cigarette stands and cotton seals?
If it comes to approving a hook, I think it's more interesting that he tried to assassinate a Japanese governor of Korea, or that he worked for Korean independence from China and Russia, than just saying he was a Korean independence fighter. RebeccaGreen (talk) 18:56, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
Also pinging Bobbychan193 as they have been involved in editing the article recently. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:53, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: Unfortunately, I can't read Korean, so I can't be of much help here. Although I've already done a copy edit of the article, let me know if any other parts (especially newly written parts) need copy editing. Bobbychan193 (talk) 01:35, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
I can sense... they are students (March-June matches with Korean schools (K-12 or univ) semester, stopped contribs altogether when the semester was done, DYK) of... probably Piotrus? If I am correct... I can take over the stuff, or you can take care of the stuff. — regards, Revi 01:57, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Yes. As usual, unless they take another of my wiki class this semester, the odds of them coming back to this are slim. Feel free to fail this. I always stress to them they have to finish the job, and it is in their own interest (as in, they could say during the job interview they got stuff on Wikipedia's front page). If they don't care or are unable to follow this up, there's little we can do. PS. Of course, if someone wants to rescue it, that's awesome, and thanks! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:26, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Allow me few hours (or till Thursday when Chuseok starts); I was typing a bunch of texts and then my kernel panicked (Unix/Linux version of Blue Screen) at the wall of texts, so I need to type them from scratch again, and that kernel panic panicked me as well :P — regards, Revi 05:02, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
RebeccaGreen, meanwhile... (I almost finished writing this stuff yesterday but then... my mac's kernel crashed so I am re-writing those)

Eg, in the Early life section, "Kang was born in Deokcheon, Pyeongan-do, Joseon. He spent his childhood in Jinju, Gyeongsang Province and Miryang, Gyeongsang-do. Kang studied Korean medicine from a young age after returning home from Deokcheon, Pyeongan-do." - should that be returning home to Deokcheon? Otherwise it doesn't seem to make sense.

You are correct here.

And another example, "he moved to Hongwon, Hamkyong-do, where he served as a Korean medicine doctor while teaching children Neo-Confucianism. ... Kang was mainly engaged in commerce in Hongwon, reportedly going to Hongwon for a large sum of money when he took the initiative. He ran a general merchandise store with his son Jung Geon on Nammun Street in the center of Hongwon. The store mainly sold paint, cigarette stands, and cotton seals. At the same time, he lent the traders money at low interest."
So, he was a doctor, he taught children, and he was engaged in commerce - but mainly engaged? And what does "reportedly going to Hongwon for a large sum of money when he took the initiative" mean? What are cigarette stands and cotton seals?

I think this is the correct course of time sequence:
  1. He moved to Hongwon due to safety blah blah.
  2. He became a Doctor, taught stuff to childrens
  3. He also ran a business (with his son) selling cigarette, and cotton stuff.
He contributed the same thing on Korean Wikipedia, and what I can infer from there is the 'Cotton seal' is (IMO) in fact 'cotton threads'. I will need to verify it with a source if possible, but I cannot find the News DongAh May 1969 edition anywhere online. I may need to dig libraries or archives.
For the money, it looks like it is meant to be "He had $$$s when he moved to Hongwon". Cigarette stands are probably meant to be "we sell cigarettes"?
For the hooks, as part of the Korean History textbook, we frequently see him on the textbook so you know much better than me about the 'interesting stuff'. (If it needs to be explicitly spelled, I am willing to take over the nominator's job of doing stuff, yeah.) — regards, Revi 00:38, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg -revi, thank you for this information. I have edited the 2nd paragraph in the Early life section accordingly. I hope it looks OK to you now.
I have added a new section called 'Exile', as by the end of the "Early life" section Kang was over 50!
So, in the 1st paragraph of the Exile section, it reads:
Following the Japan–Korea Treaty of 1905, Kang went into exile to Manchuria Bukkando. He was deeply angered by Japanese colonial rule in 1910. At the time, he was a middle-aged man over 50. In the fall of 1910, Kang decided to seek asylum and moved members of his family to Khabarovsk. He left Yongwon-myeon, Hongwon to Dudogu, Northern Gando in the spring of 1911, where he ran a herbal medicine shop.
  • Is Bukkando in Manchuria? Would it be correct to write "Kang went into exile to Bukkando, Manchuria"?
  • Yongwon-myeon is not mentioned until now. If it is in Hongwon, and it is important to say where he was living in Hongwon, then it would probably be better to add it to the sentence "He ran a general merchandise store with his son Jung Geon on Nammun Street in the center of Hongwon." - if it fits with that. Otherwise, I think it would be clearer here just to say "He left Hongwon".
  • He moved members of his family to Khabarovsk in the fall of 1910 - did he move there himself? or did he leave Hongwon himself when he moved to Dudogu, Northern Gando the following spring? Would it be correct to say "Deciding to seek asylum, Kang moved members of his family to Khabarovsk in the fall of 1910, and then he left Hongwon to move to Dudogu, Northern Gando, in the spring of 1911"?
  • In the last para of the Exile section, it says "Kang founded Guangdong Middle School". In the next paragraph (in the next section), it says "Kang handed over Kwangdong Middle School". This sounds like the same school, so it would be clearer to use the same spelling. It also mentions Guangdong University - if the name is the same in Korean, I think it would be clearer in English to spell it the same way unless there is a tradition of using different romanised spellings.
  • For the possible alternate hook focuses I mentioned above, I think we will need more citations, and more explicit statements. For a hook about the assassination attempt, the article says "On the day Saitō visited Korea, Kang attempted to assassinate Saitō by throwing a bomb at him. The explosion missed Saito but injured several onlookers." The second sentence is followed by a citation to 윤, 상택 (2001). 윤치호 일기 [Diary of Yoon Chi-ho]. 역사비평사. p. 131. Can that source also be used as a citation for the first sentence, ""On the day Saitō visited Korea, Kang attempted to assassinate Saitō by throwing a bomb at him."? I would presume it can, but I don't want to add a citation before checking.
For a hook about him working for Korean independence from China and Russia, we will need to add those countries' names in the text explicitly. I can do that, and then check if we need more citations for the relevant sentences.
Thanks again for taking over the nominator's job of doing this! RebeccaGreen (talk) 03:01, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
Hoi, let me answer easy part right away and do the more thorough one later today.

Is Bukkando in Manchuria? Would it be correct to write "Kang went into exile to Bukkando, Manchuria"?

Bukkando is split to Buk and Kando, Kando is alternative pronounciation of Gando (Jiandao), Buk means "North" so it's effectively "North Jiandao/Gando", which is a subset of Manchuria.

Yongwon-myeon is not mentioned until now. If it is in Hongwon, and it is important to say where he was living in Hongwon, then it would probably be better to add it to the sentence "He ran a general merchandise store with his son Jung Geon on Nammun Street in the center of Hongwon." - if it fits with that. Otherwise, I think it would be clearer here just to say "He left Hongwon".

Yongwon-myeon is part of Hongwon, and I don't think it is that significant. Compressed to "Hongwon".
— regards, Revi 03:26, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Thank you, I have changed "Manchuria Bukkando" to "northern Gando (Jiandao), Manchuria." Northern Gando was already mentioned later in the para, so it's clearer to refer to it the same way. I think we may need to clarify the events and their timing in this para, though. Perhaps:
"Following the Japan–Korea Treaty of 1905, and the annexation of Korea and its colonial rule by Japan following the Japan–Korea Treaty of 1910, Kang was deeply angered. At the time, he was a middle-aged man over 50. In the fall of 1910, Kang decided to seek asylum and moved members of his family to Khabarovsk. He himself left Hongwon and went into exile in Dudogu, northern Gando (Jiandao), Manchuria, in the spring of 1911, where he ran a herbal medicine shop."
I wondered why he did not go after 1905, and waited till 1910, until I read the article about the 1905 treaty and realised that Japan imposed colonial rule in 1910. I suggest including that 1910 treaty in this sentence, because I think many other readers who are not familiar with Korean history will not understand the 1910 reference. (BTW, Khabarovsk is a very long way away. Did he really send family there, rather than to Vladivostok, which the next para says he moved to later? I guess if the source says Khabarovsk, that's what we say ....) RebeccaGreen (talk) 12:54, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
1905 Treaty took away Joseon's diplomatic sovereignty from Joseon while keeping the sovereign (I mean, the Emperor) intact (government was effectively dissolved in 1907 though), the 1910 treaty was the rubber stamp that merged two countries and the Emperor was removed from the throne. For the Khabarovsk stuff, I need to travel to National Library to see the copylink for myself of that magazine, so I can't answer it right away (probably next week). I just can't find it on the web. — regards, Revi 14:24, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
No worries, Revi, if you are able to research it in the National Library, that's great! This has been waiting a while, a little longer won't be a problem - and it does seem like an important subject that it would be good to get as correct and clear as possible. Just ping me when you have been able to follow it up :-) RebeccaGreen (talk) 15:49, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
SITREP (no need to reply, FYI only): was busy for the past week. Retrying this week. — regards, Revi 11:39, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 1

Kim Kardashian, Superstar

Created by Vistadan (talk). Nominated by CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk) at 14:06, 1 July 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The archived hiphoppress.com source seems historically valuable (within the context of Kim Kardashian's life story), but I doubt we can take its claims at face value. The source is a press release by Vivid Entertainment published on hiphoppress.com, with the site acting as a newswire. Vivid, of course, acquired and distributed the tape, making them a primary (and likely unreliable) source. There is also conflicting information: per the article, Ian Halperin has alleged that Kim and her mother leaked the tape to Vivid, which sounds like it conflicts with Vivid's narrative of purchasing it from a third party.
So we have two apparently conflicting versions of events: either a third party sold the tape to Vivid for a million dollars, or the Kardashians leaked it to Vivid themselves. Both versions of events are disputed. I don't know what the basis for Halperin's claims are, but I know Vivid is not a disinterested secondary source—they're an involved party with a likely conflict of interest. I think it would be better to develop an alternate hook, and the article itself could be bulked up with more info. For instance, I imagine there are sources out there providing details about the tape's commercial success? —BLZ · talk 00:12, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
A drive-by comment, but I strongly suggest that the hook be reworded due to BLP concerns, and also because Wikipedia is not a tabloid. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:37, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
What do you propose the hook be changed to? I've added an alt that changes "sex tape" to "pornographic film" if that was the BLP concern? Vistadan 14:05, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
I suppose that might be a better option, but it might still be too "tabloidy" for my tastes. Pinging reviewer Brandt Luke Zorn for their thoughts. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:05, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
I think using the term "sex tape" is probably OK, honestly. It may sound colloquial or even inappropriate, but it does accurately describe the contents or "genre" of the tape, since "celebrity sex tape" is its own distinct category of porn. "Pornographic film", on the other hand, may sound more formal but is starched of all meaning and specificity. Plus it may even misleadingly suggest that the tape was made in a "professional" production context, which could be a BLP concern in the opposite direction: a "pornographic film" is filmed with the intention that it will be distributed, and we don't want to suggest that a video filmed in a private setting was professionally "produced" (it wasn't) or that it was planned to be distributed at the time of filming (it doesn't seem that way, but that's apparently in dispute at the least).
My issue is more about the questionable grounding of the "fact" in the hook. It's not wrong to say, in the article, that Vivid claimed to have paid $1 million for the tape. It's true that they made that claim, and the cited press release is adequate . But there is a dispute about what really happened (according to the Halperin book, anyway), and the hook relies on a primary source from an involved party with a conflict-of-interest as to how the events are represented, i.e., the press release is not an objective secondhand account of "what really happened". Based on the various sources in the article at the moment and the conflicting accounts, I would not be comfortable using any fact about what happened leading up to the tape's distribution.
On the other hand, I'm not sure which alternate "fact" from the article I would choose for a hook at present. What I do suspect is that the article subject matter is big enough that it could be expanded. It is, after all, one of the most notorious videos of the last 20 years, and one that eventually propelled Kim to an almost unprecedented level of superstardom in the history of celebrity culture. It's been discussed and written about endlessly, which means there must be a sturdier fact out that could be used. For example, just off the top of my head as a Kanye fan, I recall that his line "My girl a superstar all from a home movie" from "Clique" is an allusion to the tape (see e.g. [3]). I'm sure Kanye's mentioned it elsewhere, whether in his lyrics or in interviews or both. There's also Ray J's "I Hit It First". Neither of those songs are mentioned in this article, which means there's more to talk about and more that could be used as a hook out there. —BLZ · talk 20:08, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
Narutolovehinata5, i will work on it.___CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 00:09, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
  • CAPTAIN MEDUSA, it has been over two weeks since you said you would work on it, and nothing has yet been done, though you have been quite active on Wikipedia in the meantime. We are happy to allow you another seven days to make good progress on the issues raised, but if nothing has been done by then, we will regretfully have to mark it for closure. I hope you'll be able to get back to it by then. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:29, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

John Deane (sailor)

  • ... that John Deane and his crew of the Nottingham Galley cannibalised in desperation the ship's deceased carpenter when the ship wrecked on Boon Island in 1710?
    • ALT1:... that the British sailor and diplomat John Deane, was accused of accepting a considerable bribe in exchange for the surrender of the two Swedish vessels whilst captaining a Russian Navy frigate, with his initial sentence reduced by Peter the Great and further exonerated by Fyodor Apraksin?

Created by D.j.atherton (talk). Self-nominated at 11:28, 4 July 2019 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg The article meets DYK requirements, meets sourcing requirements, the hook fact is interesting and is mentioned inline and verified. Nominator has no prior DYK credits so no QPQ is required. Earwigs detects some close paraphrasing with this source, which will need to be addressed before this can be approved. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:38, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing Narutolovehinata5 - can you possibly confirm whether the close paraphrasing is an issue with the hook fact or the article? I am aware there was an issue with the article that has since been resolved with the help of another user. Thanks for your help! D.J.A (talk) 10:47, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
@D.j.atherton: It was with the article. There were some sentences that appear to have been missed from the rewrite. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:48, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: thanks for the clarification! It has hopefully been cleaned up as necessary - earwig report is now at 5%. Hopefully that's alright? Thanks, D.J.A (talk) 11:01, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Thanks, I think this should be good to go now. Earwigs still has a score of 23% for another source, but the common statements are so short that I think WP:LIMITED applies. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:09, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg I note that there are some unsourced paragraphs, some closing sentences to paragraphs that are uncited, and that ALT1 is far too long for a hook? Spokoyni (talk) 20:40, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
Oof, thanks for pointing that out Spokoyni, somehow missed those unsourced paragraphs. But I saw in a recent DYK nomination that the rule only requires at least one reference per paragraph and these can be anywhere in the paragraph (even at the start), though I'd guess this is aside from BLPs or other controversial topics such as politics and medicine. @D.j.atherton: Can you please try lookig for references for the paragraphs without citations? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 20:59, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
No problem, I've missed some obvious things in reviews and wondered how I managed to do so. Easily done. Wikipedia:Inline citation (particularly Wikipedia:CITEDENSE) and Wikipedia:When to cite are pretty generally worded guidelines, probably the most relevant bit is "Everything in [a] paragraph [that] deals with the same, single subject from the same source ... can ... be supported by a single inline citation. The inline citation could be placed at any sensible location, but the end of the paragraph is the most common choice." The only concern with not putting it at the end of a paragraph is I think that someone might come along and wonder if everything that follows after the cite in a paragraph is from a different source, or has no source at all. But it looks like there's no hard rule in wiki generally, and that the DYK rules only state that the hook fact must be cited in the sentence it appears in, and the "rule of thumb is one inline citation per paragraph". Spokoyni (talk) 21:58, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi both, Spokoyni and Narutolovehinata5, I have made clearer the sourcing so there shouldn't be any paragraphs left un-sourced. Let me know if there's anything else I can do to help this! Thanks both of you! D.J.A (talk) 10:11, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi D.J.A, good work! At the moment the first paragraph of "Early life" and the second paragraph of "Personal life and retirement" still don't seem to have any cites. There's also a few paragraphs that have no cites at the end. As discussed above, that isn't necessarily a problem, though some users might tag these as uncited. It's up to you if you want to leave them as they are. Spokoyni (talk) 10:25, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks Spokoyni, I'd overlooked those two paragraphs obviously! I see what you mean about the few paragraphs without a citation at the end but I think, unless anyone does flag it as an issue, the current amount are pretty concise? — Preceding unsigned comment added by D.j.atherton (talkcontribs) 10:30, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
General wikipedia guidelines are pretty relaxed (see above), so if you'd prefer to keep it as it is, that I don't think that should stand in the way of promotion. Of course Narutolovehinata5 is the reviewer here, I'm just chiming in with some thoughts. I'd only say you might have to be prepared to deal with that at some point, possibly while it is on the main page, as articles tend to get a lot of external scrutiny. Spokoyni (talk) 10:39, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
The rules do require at least one reference per paragraph for DYK articles, so this can't be promoted until that's addressed. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:26, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
I believe there is now at least one reference per paragraph. (Also, just to note, the majority of today's DYK articles do not follow this rule. I have a feeling it is not as strict as suggested). Thanks, D.J.A (talk) 08:58, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Thanks. While each paragraph now has a citation, some end sentences still don't have a citation at the end. I'm willing to overlook this and will still give this the tick as long as Spokoyni is satisfied with the new edits, I'm just worried that other editors may not feel the same way. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:50, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
    • Certainly no objections here, and of course this is first and foremost your review Narutolovehinata5. If, and I suspect its very likely, the sentences are tagged - especially with the eyes it gets before and during the main page, that will be something the nominator can take up with who tags it. Spokoyni (talk) 02:16, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Thanks. With that in mind, I think this is good to go now. If there are still things that need to be fixed, they probably aren't too major to keep it from promotion. I would suggest changing one mention of "passed away" to "died" per WP:EUPHEMISM, though this is only a minor issue. I've struck ALT1 for being too long, and ALT0 is probably the more eye-catchy hook anyway. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:59, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, and did some light editing. I noted several places where citations are required. If you quote someone, or add specific information, you need a cite. I don't know where you get your idea that the majority of today's DYK articles do not follow this rule. Of course they do. Yoninah (talk) 02:08, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Apologies Yoninah, that comment wasn't meant to be rude or dismissive - only to note that the necessity of at least one citation per paragraph did not look to be reflected in all of the articles. One of today's, for example: LGBT cinema in Latin America. I'm happy to go back onto the article and amend where citations are shown - I think I've placed ones in the middle of a paragraph when they apply to the entire paragraph possibly. Thanks! D.J.A (talk) 08:29, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
  • @D.j.atherton: thank you for pointing out that article. (I didn't promote it, and I wouldn't have promoted it with an unreferenced section.) I tagged the article. Yoninah (talk) 11:25, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
  • D.j.atherton has not edited Wikipedia since the above August 27 posts on this page, and three "citation needed" templates remain on the article. I'll let Yoninah decide how to proceed. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:35, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg As I have access to Jstor, I was able to correct and add information from one of the sources. But I also found that the information cited to that source was not in the Jstor article, so I added a "citation needed" tag. There are two other paragraphs that also need citations, for which the sources appear to be offline. If the nominator is no longer available, I would close this as unsuccessful. Yoninah (talk) 18:25, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I have access to the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography entry, which includes the information for which two "citation needed" tags had been added. I have added citations and made some edits to the article to better reflect the sources. Yoninah, BlueMoonset, are there other parts of the article which you think need more or better sourcing? I have access to some databases, including Jstor, Ebsco, and supposedly Gale, though it's currently not loading properly - so may be able to address any other issues, if necessary. RebeccaGreen (talk) 11:03, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 14

On Saudi Arabia

Created by Mbazri (talk). Self-nominated at 12:08, 20 July 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Created within 7 days, size fine, only 1 DYK credit so QPQ unnecessary. I verified all 3 hooks from the sources, and citations are given in the article. Two problems: First, both the hooks and the article itself need copy-editing. "it is authored in On Saudi Arabia" is incorrect and needs to be changed to something like "according to On Saudi Arabia,". "that Karen Elliott House in her book ... says that" could be replaced by "according to Karen Elliott House's book ...,". "the last days of the Soviet Union" is maybe a more natural phrase than "the Soviet Union in its final days".
Secondly, Earwig turns up several chunks of text that have been copy-pasted without quotation marks. These should either be specified as direct quotations or rewritten.
  • I have done a round of cleanup work with Earwig; sections are now either properly quoted or rephrased. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 01:09, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
Regarding the selection of hook, I think ALT1 is clearly better than the other two, which both look more like facts about Saudi Arabia rather than the book. The claim that Saudi Arabia is similar to the collapsing Soviet Union is striking and relates directly to House and the book. —Nizolan (talk · c.) 04:05, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Cheers Mary Mark Ockerbloom. Just double-checked and that clears up my Earwig concern; I see you've also improved the article generally. Since the main hook was the only one that needed rewriting, I'm approving this with the caveat that the other two could still be tweaked for style. —Nizolan (talk · c.) 01:15, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

@Mary Mark Ockerbloom: Thank you for reviewing the DYK and for your comment. Also thank you @Nizolan: for checking and improving the article. I Personally suggest the main hook by making some changes which Mary Mark Ockerbloom mentioned. The suggested sentence could be like this:

... that according to On Saudi Arabia the poorest class of the Saudi Arabia's society are widowed or divorced women, who have to work hard to support their children? --Mbazri (talk) 11:28, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

@Yoninah: No Problem. We can remove the last sentence. I mean this: "who have to work hard to support their children?" Then we will have the following sentence as the hook:
...according to On Saudi Arabia the poorest class of the Saudi Arabia's society are widowed or divorced women?
I can also suggest the following ALTs:

--Mbazri (talk) 06:49, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

  • @Mbazri: what's wrong with ALT1a? It has a little more international appeal. Yoninah (talk) 13:28, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg I'm concerned that some of the phrasing in this article is too close to that of its sources. Compare for example "under the rigid control of Wahhabi fundamentalists, the education system is incapable of preparing Saudis for professional work. Because they refuse to work in blue-collar and service areas, 90 percent of private-sector jobs are filled by foreign workers" with "the education system, in the firm grip of Wahhabi fundamentalists, is spectacularly unable to prepare Saudis for professional jobs. And since most refuse blue-collar and service work, 9 out of 10 private sector jobs are held by foreigners". Nikkimaria (talk) 17:43, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
@Nikkimaria: I tried to correct it. What do you think about it now?--Mbazri (talk) 13:21, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
Still. Another example is "She has entered into poor slums, rich compounds, and the elegant tents of the royal family — and even, wearing a burqa, the most devout families" vs "managed to get into the poorest slums, the richest compounds, and the most elegant tents of the royal family — and, sometimes garbed in a burqa, into the most devout families". Nikkimaria (talk) 13:28, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
@Nikkimaria:  Done.--Mbazri (talk) 05:48, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
I see that you've edited the two specific examples I've mentioned. These were examples only. Have you checked the rest of the article against its sources? Nikkimaria (talk) 10:36, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg With regret, I'm marking this for closure; there has been no response to Nikkimaria's question, and there are indeed other places in the article that are too close to their sources, for example, the end of the Research section. Another problem is that some quotes are included that seem to be by House, or are specifically attributed to her, but actually come from the cited article or review and are the words of the article's author, not House's own words. For example, in the final paragraph, both quotes are from the Zoë Ferraris review in Sfgate, but attributed to House—they may be the reviewer's interpretation of House's book, but the presumption is that they're not House's words because they aren't in quotes in the article. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:00, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 18

John A. Spizziri

  • ... that John A. Spizziri proposed allowing people to carry small amounts of prescription tranquilizers, after a man was arrested when Librium pills were found in a jacket that a dog had dragged away? "Arrest Of Patient Stirs Legislature" in The New York Times: "While on a visit in Wood‐Ridge on May 8, Mr. Schwam was carrying in an unmarked one‐inch green and brown vial ‘eight Librium capsules he had taken from a large bottle containing his monthly supply of 120 pills.... A neighborhood dog ran off with his denim jacket containing the vial. woman who later found the jacket but could not learn the owner's name took it to the police, who found the pills and arrested Mr. Schwam under a section ‐of the drug law that prohibits carrying dozens of types of pills and prescribed drugs in anything but the original, labled container provided by a pharmacist.... The new amendment, offered by Assemblyman John A. Spizziri, Republican of Franklin Lakes, would permit person with a legitimate need for a controlled drug to carry a two‐day supply of the pills or medication in any container")
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self-nominated at 12:53, 22 July 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @Alansohn: This article is a five-fold expansion and is new enough and long enough. The article is neutral and I detected no copyright or plagiarism issues. A QPQ has been done. I think the article is unbalanced. It has a large paragraph, more than half the article in fact, discussing a criminal justice-related incident in detail, all for the sake of mentioning that Spizziri made a proposal to amend the law. So, was the law changed? Did he do nothing else worthy of mention in his whole life? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:31, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Narutolovehinata5, I'd prefer to be able to expand the article, but I'm facing challenges finding meaningful sources. A new subscription should help and the article will be updated appropriately. Alansohn (talk) 01:40, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Have you tried asking for help from resource exchanges or other pages like that? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 08:50, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 22

The Art of Sanctions

  • ... that the sanction is an art and its efficiency depend on the manipulations of the policy makers according to Richard Nephew's new book, The Art of Sanctions?
    • ALT1:... that The Art of Sanctions is a book that, written by Richard Nephew, expose the variables which influence to sanctions regime?
    • ALT2:... that Richard Nephew, a former U.S. sanction expert, shares his experiences about the using of sanctions against a target in his book which named The Art of Sanctions?
    • ALT3:... that achieving to the foreign policy aims via sanctions against a target has a manner and Richard Nephew, an US sanction's expert, shares his experience with you in The Art of Sanctions?
  • Comment: Hi dear admin, I just expanded the Article since 22 July 2019. The creator of page is someone else. I used the first time, 22 July 2019, that I had started to expanding the article for the main DYK nominations page. I hope you accept my interesting nomination.

5x expanded by Forest90 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:49, 26 July 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Article has been expanded fivefold (90 words -> 590 words). The user apparently has just 2 DYK nominations, so no QPQ required. AGF on Persian sources, but I'm not sure what's the status of sources like Mehr News Agency whether they are considered reliable. Atleast some of the Persian language sources seem duplicate to other sources. There are two "verification needed" tags which should be fixed. Not quite yet there. --Pudeo (talk) 18:52, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Hi @Forest90:, I have read this article. It is interesting, but it needs a bit more work to make the meaning clearer. I just placed some tags saying "clarification needed", and another editor had already placed some too. If you look at the article in Edit mode, you can see the questions we have about the meaning.
I can also see that in some parts of the article, the sentences and parts of sentences are the same as in some of the sources and in this website [4] about the book. It is better to try to write sentences a bit differently, otherwise there could be a problem with Wikipedia policies about WP:COPYVIO, WP:PLAGIARISM or WP:PARAPHRASE. I understand that it is extra difficult to choose a different way of saying something in another language.
The article needs some work on meaning and grammar. I saw on your User Talk page that someone has helped you fix problems in another article. Could you maybe ask them to help you with this article too? Sometimes the Guild of Copy Editors can help, but if some of the problems are about translating from another language, or explaining in English something you are thinking, or have a source about, in your language, it really helps to have someone else who knows your language and can help with putting what you want to say into English. Then, after that, if there are any little things to fix, the copy editors could help. I hope this is helpful. RebeccaGreen (talk) 20:09, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 24

Russian interference in the 2020 United States elections

  • ... that according to Robert Mueller, foreign interference in the 2020 United States elections is ongoing? Source: "During a hearing in the United States House of Representatives concerning the contents of the Mueller Report, Robert Mueller said that the Russians continue to interfere in U.S. elections "as we sit here"." Cited in the article to CNN and the Washington Post
  • Reviewed: IOU Template:Did you know nominations/Arudji Kartawinata
  • Comment: This article could be contentious, but I think that a fact based hook should be okay. It's slightly older than 7 days from the time of the article creation to my nomination, but that's because it was nominated for deletion and I did not want to nominated until that closed.

Created by Muboshgu (talk) and XOR'easter (talk). Nominated by Muboshgu (talk) at 21:12, 4 August 2019 (UTC).

  • General eligiblity:
  • New Enough: Red XN - This article was created on 24 July 2019. The earliest time this article could have been nominated was 31 July 2019.
  • Long Enough: Green tickY

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - Doesn't give context for non-US readers.

QPQ: Red XN - Pending...
Overall: Symbol redirect vote 4.svgMJLTalk 02:58, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Symbol question.svg @MJL: Considering the article was at AfD until yesterday I think it's fair to give the nominator some leniency on the usual deadline and not just close the nomination outright. No opinion on other criticisms. – Teratix 04:28, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
    @Teratix: Am I allowed to do that? –MJLTalk 04:32, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
    My understanding is that if a reviewer uses Symbol delete vote.svg it means "this is not suitable for DYK" and marks the nomination for closure. If you merely mean it requires more work but could still be eligible, generally Symbol possible vote.svg or Symbol question.svg would be the appropriate icons.
    You are, of course, allowed to do this, but I think the issues with the article are fixable and the seven-day deadline should be relaxed. – Teratix 04:46, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
    Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see this on the main page because I think it shows the diverse types of content Wikipedia has to offer (I can't recall the last election related page that got promoted). I just don't want to get in trouble.
    I've switched the status to "again" if that helps. –MJLTalk 04:51, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
    Question: is the "doesn't give context for non-US readers" criticism of the hook based on the hook not explaining who Robert Mueller is? (I worked on the article, as noted above, but I have no real experience at DYK.) XOR'easter (talk) 15:43, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
    @XOR'easter: Yeah, pretty much. To anyone who doesn't really know why he is significant, then they don't know why the whole hook is important. If there was info about how he just spent 2 or so years investigating Russian interference in US elections, then it'd be a good hook.
    @Teratix: I don't know if you're still interested in reviewing this or anything? –MJLTalk 21:10, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
    I don't trust myself to assess the neutrality of a US politics article :) – Teratix 00:42, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
    A couple possibilities that sprang to mind:
    ALT1: ... that according to Robert Mueller, who led a twenty-two-month-long investigation of foreign interference in the 2016 United States presidential election, Russian interference in the 2020 United States elections is ongoing?
    ALT2: ... that according to Robert Mueller, who led a twenty-two-month-long investigation into misconduct surrounding the 2016 United States presidential election, Russian interference in the 2020 United States elections is ongoing?
    XOR'easter (talk) 13:42, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
───────────────────────── I like both ALTs. QPQ is provided. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:15, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Reviewer needed to check the two ALT hooks and also to make any other needed checks, including the submitted QPQ. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:54, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg The article was new enough (given the AfD) and long enough. QPQ was done, it addressed one issue, and the reviewed article hook appeared on the main page on 18 August. Earwig shows copyvio unlikely. The article has sufficient inline citations.
I have some concerns about neutrality. There is discussion on Talk:Russian interference in the 2020 United States elections about possibly retitling the article, as it also mentions interference by China and Iran. One of the sources also names North Korea, and another names Saudi Arabia, Israel, the United Arab Emirates and Venezuela, however, they are not mentioned in the article. One editor suggests that retitling would involve a controversial move discussion on the Talk page. Those comments date from 30 July 2019, but have not been followed up. Pinging the editors who participated in that discussion: @Pilaz: @XOR'easter: @Muboshgu: @Theoallen1:
I also note that on 7 August there was an IP edit saying "Don't read this stupid bullshit, they have never interfered in out elections. The Democrats just can't handle the fact that they lost and no one wants their shitty policies in the US. Liberals please all of you go die." If this article appears on the main page, I think it might need some protection to avoid more of that kind of vandalism.
As far as the hook is concerned, although the Mueller investigation has been widely reported (I've read about it in Australia) I wondered whether it might be of more widespread interest to mention that the director of the FBI is concerned about foreign interference in the 2020 election, as many people know of the FBI through movies, TV shows, etc. Also, I think it might be more neutral to say just "foreign interference", or "foreign interference from countries including Russia, China and Iran". RebeccaGreen (talk) 15:10, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
The article should be moved. I oppose the nomination. Theoallen1 (talk) 21:28, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
I see no pressing need to rename the article, given that Russia is consistently the primary concern across all the sources, and other countries can be discussed as broader context. Nor do I think it is an urgent matter to restructure the article, though it is now getting long enough that division into sections might be appropriate. XOR'easter (talk) 15:42, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

@RebeccaGreen, Muboshgu, and XOR'easter: Since it has been almost a month since the last comments here, where do things stand now with the nomination? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:22, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi Narutolovehinata5, I was not sure where to go on this. Only two of the four editors who were involved in the discussion on the article's talk page responded to my ping, one to say the article should be moved to a new name, and the other to say there was no pressing need for that. And there has been no further discussion on the talk page, so it seems that there is no urgent feeling that the article should be renamed. I still think that the article would be more neutral if it was named Foreign interference in the 2020 United States elections, as other countries have been named, such as in the NYT article of July 19, 2019: "Intelligence officials said the new post reflects the reality that influence operations by Russia, China and other countries are likely to continue indefinitely." So I guess I do not feel that I could approve this DYK nomination as being within the WP:NPOV policy. (I expected that name to be a redlink, but it appears that it's a redirect to "Russian interference in the 2020 United States elections". Why not the other way round, which would better reflect the content of the article?)
If someone else approved it, my preference for a hook would be ALT1, as mentioning "foreign interference" as the context in which there is evidence of Russian interference.
I also mentioned above that I think the article might need some protection if it does appear on the main page, as there has already been one instance of vandalism of the article. Is that possible? RebeccaGreen (talk) 02:52, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
RebeccaGreen, I apologize for missing the last ping. I see renaming as a good idea. This topic is like a germinating plant at this stage, considering the election is more than a year ago. I'll do it WP:BOLDLY if noone objects. ALT1 is fine with me. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:15, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
I've decided I'm going to move the page. Many sources are talking about "foreign interference", the page covers more than just Russia, and something will probably need to be added about the Trump/Guiliani/Biden/Ukraine thing. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:17, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 30

Blind Injustice (opera)

  • ... that Blind Injustice is an opera telling the true stories of six people who were wrongfully convicted and later exonerated in Ohio? Source: "Cincinnati Opera has premiered a new opera that chronicles the stories of six people wrongfully convicted in Ohio and in the process, puts America's criminal justice system on trial" [5]
  • Reviewed: This is my fifth (last) exempt nomination.

Created by Kenirwin (talk). Self-nominated at 19:16, 3 August 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Part of the section Composition and premiere is not referenced, most of the Roles section needs to be referenced, the last sentence of Synopsis needs to be referenced, the Musical numbers section needs to be referenced along with the Recording section. An old revision had a clean copy where only the list of roles need to be referenced. The new additions need to be referenced or removed somehow. The hook is fine. A QPQ is not needed. SL93 (talk) 22:18, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Thanks @SL93: -- I'm looking into how to address these voluminous unsourced edits. Evidently it is partly standard for opera articles to include long, unsourced synopses. I'll see what I can do to handle them so it can move forward. -Kenirwin/(talk) 18:35, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
  • The nominator hasn't edited in over a week and hasn't edited the article in over a month. Pinging Gerda Arendt as she's the resident opera expert and has edited the article a bit; hopefully see or another editor could help improve the article further or address SL93's concerns. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:18, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
    I didn't get the ping, but read the page when I have time. An opera synopsis doesn't need a reference, same as for books. I'll look further and eventually come back. Voceditenore would be the opera expert to ask, but she was driven away from DYK. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:40, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
    Kenirwin, I looked now, and think it's good to know about that opera. Should I go through the article and make it fit for DYK, or would you do it, then I can review? It needs an inline reference behind every paragraph, at least. This can be a repeated reference with a name. Without a response within a few days, I'd go over the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:05, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
    Also: how about an article on the composer? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:08, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
Comment I have been trying to find and add citations, and I have just noticed that the Plot Summary section is largely copied from the Cincinnati Opera website's synopsis of the opera [6]. Earwig did not initially pick this up, but when I compared the article with that url, it gives 77.4% copyvio suspected. Several of the other sources describe the plot, so it would be possible to write something original based on the Cincinnati Opera synopsis and the other sources, but would take some work. (Re the Recording section - it's the only one for which I haven't been able to find any sources, so far. It could perhaps be deleted.) RebeccaGreen (talk) 13:13, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 4

Ester Peony

Ester Peony
Ester Peony

Improved to Good Article status by BabbaQ (talk) and Cartoon network freak (talk). Nominated by BabbaQ (talk) at 23:30, 4 August 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg First of all, both hooks are referenced with citations from a tabloid newspaper (and they're also quite uninteresting: "did you know that not everyone likes musician's music?"). This raises another issue: how is it that this article was able to pass a GA review (quite rubber-stamp, incidentally) with such poor sourcing? Not just the tabloid articles, which seem to provide the major source of information for what's in the article, but also a blog and direct links to the iTunes store. I'm sorry, but this article clearly fails DYK, and should really be submitted for a second GA review. Dahn (talk) 10:20, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Bring that up with Cartoon network freak who is the one responsible for the GA nom and improvements. I am here for the DYK. I do not share your comcerns for the sources. But I can surely bring another hook.BabbaQ (talk) 11:46, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Please see WP:DYKRULES, which specifically instructs that articles can only be considered if they're up to minimal standards, including on sourcing. We don't separate the issues. Dahn (talk) 13:38, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Additionally, it appears that the QPQ was absolutely perfunctory, which only adds to the nom's problems. Dahn (talk) 16:11, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
  • If anything, I'd take this to GA review for some instances of confusing phrasing and poor structure (section layout). Perhaps the DYK can go on hold whilst issues are addressed. Kingsif (talk) 16:05, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
GA review here, for those interested. Kingsif (talk) 17:38, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg This nomination is on hold while the GA reassessment is ongoing. If the reassessment closes with the GA status left intact, then the review will resume; if it is delisted, then the nomination will be closed as unsuccessful. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:08, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
@Dahn, BlueMoonset, and Cartoon network freak: GA review done; with improvements, it is kept as a GA. DYK review can resume. Kingsif (talk) 20:24, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Thanks, Kingsif. Whoever continues the review should note that a different QPQ has been submitted now for this nomination. If Dahn isn't interested in doing so, I can call for a new reviewer. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:37, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Massive improvements on the article, and QPQ submission noted. However, ALT 0 and ALT 1 still have issues; ALT 2 is passable, but also not really interesting -- hasn't Justin Bieber, and since him one in three singers, already achieved fame for doing the same thing? Dahn (talk) 21:19, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
Maybe there could be a way to expand ALT2? Like perhaps it could be mentioned that she was already composing music for other artists even before her being discovered. I actually think ALT0 and ALT1 are interesting, but they might be a bit too BLP-ish and in any case are probably too vague. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:34, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
I still think they're generic stuff that could describe any artist today. TBT, the only eye-catching thing that I can think of in the article is that she emigrated to Canada, then returned to Romania -- a quite unusual a feat. But I note that this tidbit is also reliant on a tabloid source. Dahn (talk) 08:25, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
ALT3 ... that Ester Peony (pictured), who was Romania's representative at the Eurovision Song Contest 2019, spent part of her early life in Canada?
@Dahn, BabbaQ, Cartoon network freak, Kingsif, and BlueMoonset: Is this okay? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 08:44, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Oh, thank you for your assistance. It looks good to me. Good to go.BabbaQ (talk) 11:39, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
  • If others approve of a hook based on a tabloid, I will have no objection. You can alternatively find another reference to add it for that fact and others it may support (not removing Libertatea, but solidifying details that are currently only based on it.) Dahn (talk) 15:35, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
As for the Canada part, her profile on the official Eurovision website also discusses it a bit, so I guess if there are concerns about the tabloid source we can use this instead. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:35, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
Maybe that should be used as a second citation for this and each other fact it verifies? Dahn (talk) 04:49, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
Since it's the Eurovision's official website, WP:PRIMARY might apply, but I don't really see a reason to doubt that source's reliability in this case and I'm assuming good faith that the information is accurate. And in any case, I also found other independent sources in the article. All that's really needed now is for either Cartoon network freak or BabbaQ to add the source(s) to the article. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 22:19, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
Done.BabbaQ (talk) 07:14, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 7

Britten's Purcell Realizations

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 19:01, 14 August 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright or plagiarism issues. A QPQ is needed and the hook needs to be rewritten because it is currently ungrammatical. It might be better not to pipe the link. Ping me when you are ready for me to complete the review. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:46, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
Pleae let me know more precisely what the problem is. I tried to avoid to say "in Britten's Purcell Realizations", Benjamin Britten realized works by Henry Purcell", to avoid repetition, and because the two are the best-known English compoers, and whoever will not recognize the names, will probably not care about any of the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:04, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
The hook has no main verb. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:54, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
The verb is "realized". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:59, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
No, "realized songs" is (or acts as) a noun for the possessive "Britten's". The hook does need a rewrite; at a bare minimum (though I recommend a more extensive recasting) "were written" should be added after "for voice and piano". BlueMoonset (talk) 21:28, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
Sorry about the mistaken possessive.
ALT1: ... that Benjamin Britten realized several songs by Henry Purcell for piano beginning in 1945 when Purcell's 250th anniversary of death was remembered?
"was written for voice and piano" is wrong, becaue the vocal part was written by Purcell, and Britten only "realized" the figured bass (which in Purcell' time would have been played by a continuo group) for piano. I may need help with the wording. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:46, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg Thank you. ALT1 looks good, though I think "commemorated" is better than "remembered", but we still need a QPQ. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:40, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
I've copyedited the article. Although this are called "realizations", they seem to be as much arrangements as realizations: as the article makes clear, Britten goes well beyond the figured bass. I also think that most people are going to be confused by "realized" in the context of the hook, being unaware of the specific musical meaning. Suggesting the following recasting of the hook (note that I specified voice and piano because song arrangements are made for piano minus the words but including the vocal melodic line):
(ec) Thank you for the better word:
ALT3: ... that Benjamin Britten realized several songs by Henry Purcell for piano beginning in 1945 when Purcell's 250th anniversary of death was commemorated?
BlueMoonset, thanks for the article work. Knowing ERRORS, some were written later, so not "to commemorate". Also I do think we need to explain the title if we don't use its wording.
ALT4: ... that in his Purcell Realizations, Benjamin Britten arranged the accompaniment of songs by Henry Purcell for piano, beginning in 1945 when his 250th anniversary of death was commemorated? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:31, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
I am reviewing Ernst Dammann. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:31, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
Changing the second ALT3 to be ALT4, to avoid potential confusion. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:13, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
ALT2 is the best and most understandable of the new hooks, but to accommodate Gerda's point, we could have ALT2a -
Do you really think we should not mention the word "Realization" if it's in the title? Or alternatively mention the title? "arrange" just doesn't mean the same, at least for me. Having said that, I can live with ALT2a - always nice to have a long bold string - but am afraid it's misleading. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:00, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
Well, I think its OK, because the word "realizations" in this context is unfamiliar, and few people will know what it means. However, if you want to suggest a different hook, please go ahead. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:17, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
Just butting in here - I also think that ALT2a works well. I would not know what "realising" means in this context, but arranging, yes. Then, if I am interested in Britten and Purcell, I will click on the article and learn about realising (and about figured bass, to which I have just added a link, as I am a musical ignoramus). RebeccaGreen (talk) 13:36, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
PS I meant to say, the information about the figured bass in Purcell's time, that it would have been played by a continuo group, is interesting, and it's not in this article or Henry Purcell. I think it would add to the understanding of what both composers did to include it in this article. It is in the Figured bass article, but it would be more accessible if included in this, I think. As I said, I am a musical ignoramus, so many things that are obvious to those who are knowledgeable about music of this period are new to me! RebeccaGreen (talk) 13:42, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
Well, I hesitate because it's basically true for all pieces of Baroque music, Handel operas, Bach cantatas, you name it, - should we really insert it in all? We don't even for FAs, so far. It seems a bit like saying every time when symphony orchestra is mentioned that it contains a string section. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:00, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
It makes sense not to, then. And with a link to Figured bass (I hope that's OK), there is information available anyway. RebeccaGreen (talk) 15:25, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svgAdding another ALT hook and a request for a new reviewer. This hook is a slight tweak of ALT4:
ALT4a: ... that in his Purcell Realizations, Benjamin Britten arranged songs by Henry Purcell for voice and piano, as a commemoration of the 250th anniversary of Purcell's death?
What do you think, Gerda Arendt? RebeccaGreen (talk) 18:18, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for the offer. Being picke - sorry:
  • I don't understand Purcell Realizations as I title, so just Purcell Realizations.
  • "songs by Henry Purcell for voice and piano" sounds like Purcell wrote them for voice and piano (while the key point is that the piano wasn't even invented when he wrote them.
  • I miss a year, afraid that without being told when the 250th ... was, our general readers will have no idea.
  • I also envision ERRORS to point out that only some Britten's realizations were "to commemorate", while others were written later.
Do you want to try harder? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:22, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
Gerda Arendt, since you used Purcell Realizations (bold italic) in your own ALT4, it is odd to see you objecting to its use for ALT4a, a modified version of your own proposal. It looks fine to me; the Hyperion CD set uses Purcell Realizations as a title. I read the "arranged" section as "arranged ... for voice and piano" much like your original hook's realized songs by Henry Purcell for voice and piano, but if it is, on further reflection, overly ambiguous, perhaps "arranged figured bass songs" will solve that, and "in part to commemorate the 250th anniversary" to address the final issue. Updating ALT4a; resulting hook is 189 characters:
BlueMoonset, you note well how torn I am whether it's a title, which made he seek refuge in a pipe link. It's not a title that Britten gave this collection, only one of several ways of a description. I like your ALT4 best so far, and could live with it, including the italics, but while songs is general, figured bass songs is limited (+ I never heard the term, but that could be just me), and it would for my understanding not imply the many melodies (arias and a few duets) from the stage works. Any way to suggest better than "in part" that the anniversary gave the idea? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:18, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
ps: reading ALT1 again, I believe that solved some problems. Why not let people find out what "realize" means? - It's DYK, after all. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:20, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 9

Suli Lake, Dabiele Lake, Xiaobiele Lake

The Qarhan Playa, with Suli & other Bieletan lakes in the west
The Qarhan Playa, with Suli & other Bieletan lakes in the west
  • ... that the Qarhan Playa's Bieletan Subbasin (pictured)—including the Suli, S. Suli, Dabiele, and Xiaobiele salt lakes—is China's largest source of brine lithium? [Source: "Lithium is also richly reserved in the brines of six salt lakes with a total of 15.2×10⁶ t in LiCl (Zhang, 2000), which accounts for about 80% of the total brine lithium found in China..." (p. 171); "Bieletan (BLT)... Lithium reserves of brine deposit in LiCl×10³ t... 7740" (p. 172); see also "the total lithium reserves in the brine deposit of the BLT exceeds the sum total of the reserves in the DT, XT and YLP" (p. 181) and, for the extent of the BLT subbasin and lakes included, see p. 177—Yu & al., "Geomorphic, Hydroclimatic, and Hydrothermal Controls on the Formation of Lithium Brine Deposits in the Qaidam Basin, Northern Tibetan Plateau, China" (PDF), Ore Geology Reviews, No. 50.]
  • Reviewed: Will do. Donald Dean Jackson, Hai-Quan Mao; Claude Batchelor
  • Comment:
    A) Kindly don't add other links to the hook. We're here to promote newly created/improved articles and people curious about other topics can click through to find them and maybe learn something about what we've been working on.
    B) I've included a link to the S. Suli Lake since it is a new article to get some eyeballs & improvement for but it is not formally part of this DYK review and wouldn't pass. It's still too short with some details drawn from the non-RS Baidu Baike (China's knockoff of Wikipedia) because—as far as Google knows—this lake has literally not been separately discussed in the English language before this Wikipedia article at all. The lake, its affluent river, and its position in the DBT subbasin, however, are (inter alia) visible in the US Army map here; in the satellite images in Yu & al.; and in the Qarhan Playa map on p. 2 of this pdf. We could remove it from the hook, but I don't think that's called for by the rules and it'd be less complete and get fewer potential editors over to see it and help improve it from other Chinese sources.
    C) Yu & al. don't explicitly call out the BLT using this hook's exact phrasing, but this is a hookier version of what they're saying. To show the math: 6 areas have 15.2×10⁶ t of LiCl which are ≈80% of the reserves; BLT's reserve makes up ≈51% of that and is thus larger than any of the other 5; all the remaining reserves ≈3.8×10⁶ and thus even if they were a single deposit (implicitly but not explicitly denied) they'd still be smaller than the BLT deposit.

Created by LlywelynII (talk). Self-nominated at 07:20, 15 August 2019 (UTC).

All articles are long enough and new enough (created August 9).-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:47, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
Above you cite Zhang, pp. 171, 172 and 181, but each article has a Zheng source in foreign alphabet. What is what?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:49, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
LlywelynII-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:08, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
  • TonyTheTiger, nothing is preventing you from continuing with the rest of your review while you wait to hear back on this one issue. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:57, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 12

New Polish School of Holocaust Scholarship (conference)

  • ... that French higher education minister Frédérique Vidal criticized the role of the Polish Institute of National Remembrance in the antisemitic disruption of an academic conference in Paris? ...source: Le Figaro. Quote: "Le gouvernement français a demandé aujourd'hui aux autorités polonaises de se distancer publiquement des perturbations "hautement regrettables" et "aux relents antisémites", qui ont eu lieu lors d'un colloque à Paris consacré à l'histoire de la Shoah en Pologne. Dans un courrier adressé à Jaroslaw Gowin, ministre des Sciences et de l'Enseignement supérieur, la ministre de l'Enseignement supérieur Frédérique Vidal indique qu'un colloque .... "Cette série de graves perturbations a pu apparaître comme étant appuyés par des représentants de l'Etat polonais", regrette la ministre. Un représentant de l'Institut pour la mémoire nationale (IPN) était en effet "présent et s'y est exprimé sans condamner les agissements en cours". L'IPN a en revanche "critiqué la conférence sur les réseaux sociaux" et l'Ambassade de Pologne à Paris "a relayé les messages de l'IPN sur son compte Twitter, ce qui ne peut apparaître que (...) comme une immixtion inacceptable dans un débat scientifique", ajoute Mme Vidal dans sa lettre. "Compte tenu de ces incidents inacceptables et du grand émoi qu'ils suscitent dans la communauté universitaire française, une expression claire de votre part visant à distancier le gouvernement polonais de ces perturbations hautement regrettables me semblerait de nature à faire revenir l'apaisement", indique-t-elle encore.

Created by Icewhiz (talk) and François Robere (talk). Nominated by Icewhiz (talk) at 08:40, 18 August 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Date, size, copyvio, all good. Neutrality, however, sigh. Article is not stable (tags, some edit warring, ongoing talk discussions). Hook is not neutral, either. There is some discussion of the notability of the subject, through I don't think this has been to AfD (yet). And the parties are subject to ongoing ArbCom. At the very least I'd freeze this until after the ArbCom is resolved and dust settles. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:28, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
  • @Piotrus: - please let someone else, who is neutral in this topic area and hasn't been involved with the article, review. There is a tag on the article - yes - that should be resolved (at the present there is a tag, but no clear objection to what is non-neutral). The hook is perfectly neutral - this is a mainstream source (Le Figaro - and the same is all of the mainstream French Press) reporting directly on the statement of Vidal. the statement is clearly attributed in the hook. Icewhiz (talk) 11:33, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
  • You are welcome to ask for another reviewer, but I see nor reason to withdrew mine. Unless you can tell me which policies it may violate? It is quite normal for people interested in a topic area to review topics in it. I have never suggested that you should not comment on my DYKs, through you commented on a number in the past. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:38, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
  • You are involved (Wikipedia:Did you know/Reviewing guide, Wikipedia:Closing discussions) in the article, and have been prior to the review - and as such you clearly shouldn't be reviewing. Your comment on ARBCOM is irrelevant (and mixes conduct with content discussions - see Wikipedia:Casting aspersions) to the topic on hand (content of this article and this hook), your comment on the hook is not policy based nor does it have a rationale (An attributed statement is by definition neutral, and Le Figaro is a reputable sources for such a statement (+around 5 other mainstream sources reporting the same)). Your comment on tags presently in the article is factual, and yes this is a dispute that should be resolved. Icewhiz (talk) 11:47, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
  • I have never edited that article (prior to doing this review, and I only did some minor c/e edits few minutes ago), so do tell me how am I involved? I'd suggest that attacking a reviewer who gives you something besides a positive endorsement is not the best strategy to get your DYKs accepted. How about you try to fix the issues I noted, starting with the hook neutrality? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:55, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Beyond your involvement in the topic area (see - " the closing editor may have become inextricably involved through previous experience in the conflict area" in Wikipedia:Closing discussions), you've made this edit - 14:53, 13 August 2019 which clearly makes you invovled on the article level (I'll note - the article moved to a new title following your comment). You should strike your tick above. As for the hook - you didn't actually point out anything wrong with it beyond voicing your personal dislike. If you have a specific issue with the hook - please raise it ( "Hook is not neutral" is close to useless without properly identifying what is non-neutral, based on Wikipedia policy, in the hook) - and I'll be happy to address it. Icewhiz (talk) 12:02, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
  • I fail to see how a single comment on a talk page disqualifies someone from the review. But I agree, let's focus on the article. And you are right, it may not be obviously apparent to a neutral editor what the problem is here, outside, of course, the issues of notability and lack of stability. So: criticism of IPN is controversial, and possibly undue. It is neither the main issue in the article, nor is it neutral. Please propose a hook that isn't an attempt to discredit IPN smuggled onto the Wikipedia's Main Page in the form of a DYK. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:08, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
  • You are deeply involved - strike your tick please. The disruption of the conference caused an international incident. Vidal's comments, which are inline with academic WP:RS coverage of the IPN (e.g. in this recent academic book chapter), are a major component of this international incident - and is definitely DUE. I will also note that Vidal's comments are backed up by coverage of this event by NEWSORGs in multiple countries (the sole possible exception being far-right and right-wing press in Poland- sources of little weight). And all this being said - this is an attributed statement, by a major government figure (of the country hosting the conference). That some editors may WP:JUSTDONTLIKEIT criticism of the IPN does note make such criticism, when properly sourced, "controversial". It actually probably would've been possible to have an unattributed critical hook of the IPN (as basically all RSes are covering this in the same manner) - an attributed hook shouldn't be a problem at all. Are you contesting Vidal's statement? Is the hook misrepresenting Vidal is some manner? Icewhiz (talk) 13:43, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
  • The French minister has been answered by the Polish one - solve French antisemitism - and lost her colonial zeal.Xx236 (talk) 08:52, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
  • This nomination and the nominated page are parts of revisionistic project by Icewhiz and FR. They transfer responsibility for the Holocaust from Nazi Germany to Polish people. They use also subjects not related to the Holocaust like Islam. Any subject is good to dehumnaize Polish people. This Wikipedia is misused. It's your problem. Xx236 (talk) 09:08, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
    I suggest you strike that comment per WP:NPA, WP:ASPERSIONS and WP:LIBEL. François Robere (talk) 13:12, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Symbol possible vote.svg This nomination is on hold until the merger discussion is closed by an independent editor, preferably an admin, and until the neutrality template on the article is no longer an issue. It might also be wise, given the notability comments, to get a determination at AfD to settle whether the subject is indeed notable while this waits for the other issues. Presumably, by the time the merger discussion has concluded, the article's lack of stability will also have been addressed. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:35, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Minor disambiguation point: Vidal is the Minister of Higher Education (l'enseignement supérieur). She reports to Jean-Michel Blanquier, who is the Education Minister. 🌿 SashiRolls t · c 20:31, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
  • @SashiRolls: Thansk! Added higher to hook. I'll note that I've frequently commented at various fora that the length one's job title (particularly in a political context) is inversely related to the relative importance of the position at that level (the shorter a minister/secretary's job-title post is - he's likely to be more senior). Refrained from adding "Higher Education, Research and Innovation" as that is way too many chars and it seems this gets shortened to "higher education". Icewhiz (talk) 11:06, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Church of St. Nicholas in Tolmachi, House church (Russia)

Church of St. Nicholas in Tolmachi
Church of St. Nicholas in Tolmachi
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nanhaipotamon
  • Comment: Because this church has made me temporarily insane, I am going to attempt to get Our Lady of Vladimir up to GA standards to make this a triple nomination (hence the qpq for my last two exempt nominations). I ask for patience in this task for the mere fact it is my birthday today,(in two hours my time) and this will be my first GAN as well.

Moved to mainspace by MJL (talk). Self-nominated at 02:02, 13 August 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The image is appropriately licensed, the hook facts are mostly cited inline, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright or plagiarism issues. Could you add and cite a sentence more explicitly stating that the church is being used as a museum, perhaps in the "Recent usage" section. A QPQ has been done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:29, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
    @Cwmhiraeth: I'm still waiting on Johnbod to finish the GAN for Our Lady of Vladimir. He has been made aware of this Did You Know nomination but has yet to give it a pass/fail as it has not been fully reviewed. –MJLTalk 13:32, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
I suggest you just get on with dealing with the points raised. As usual you seem to prefer raising meta-worries to actually dealing with review points. Johnbod (talk) 17:32, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
Judging by my comments above, I think I was not aware that this was a 2 article hook. You will need to do a second QPQ, and a third one as well if/when you add Our Lady of Vladimir to the nomination. Give me a ping when you are ready and I will review all two/three articles. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:00, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
@BlueMoonset and Cwmhiraeth: Hey, sorry if it looked like I was ignoring this (John seemed to not appreciate my last comment). This is actually only my fourth DYK nom. One, two, and three. For some reason I burned two DYK credits when I didn't have to, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I like reviewing things. The QPQ provided is for the third article. –MJLTalk 03:03, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 14

Coat of arms of Sevastopol

  • Source: "С 1893 года до Октябрьской революции существовал герб с изображением грифона." (Roughly translates to: "From 1893 until the October Revolution there was a coat of arms depicting a griffin."
  • Source: "После Октябрьского военного переворота 1917 года монархический герб Севастополя утратил силу, и город спокойно жил без главного символа вплоть до 12 февраля 1969 года, когда был утвержден новый герб..." (Roughly translates to: "After the October military coup of 1917, the monarchical coat of arms of Sevastopol lost its strength, and the city lived quietly without a main symbol until February 12, 1969, when a new coat of arms was approved..."
  • Source: "Члены жюри сочли правильным возродить первый герб города 1893 года, без изменений, и 12 июля 1994 года сессия горсовета приняла такое решение. Однако, принимая решение в 1994 году, депутаты не отменили решение сессии, принятое в 1969 году. С этого момента, благодаря законодательной казуистике, в жизни города начался период «двоегербия»." (Roughly translates to: "The jury found it right to revive the first coat of arms of the city in 1893, unchanged, and on July 12, 1994, a session of the City Council made such a decision. However, making a decision in 1994, the deputies did not cancel the decision of the session, adopted in 1969. From this moment, thanks to legislative casuistry, in the life of the city the period of “double-blindness” began."

Created by Toreightyone (talk). Self-nominated at 02:00, 15 August 2019 (UTC).

  • This is only a drive-by comment for now as I'm not currently comfortable reviewing this nomination due to its political subject, but I would have to note that the second paragraph of the "Design" section lacks a reference. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:35, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
plus Added, Thanks, Toreightyone (talk) 15:13, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed now that reference has been added. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:32, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
    • Drive-by suggestion to combine the hooks, something like: ALT2: ... that Sevastopol had no official coat of arms from 1917 until 1969, but two official coats of arms from 1993 until 2000? Levivich 01:18, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
That works for me! Thanks, Toreightyone (talk) 19:09, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Symbol possible vote.svg @Toreightyone: I have been reading this article, thinking about reviewing the nomination. One thing strikes me as a potential issue with NPOV. The article is titled "Coat of arms of Sevastopol", and the info box is headed "Coat of arms of Sevastopol". It shows the Soviet era design, with two versions of it. The royal coat of arms is shown below in the History section. I think it would be more neutral to have the article title and, especially, the info box header as "Coats of arms of Sevastopol", showing both the Soviet era design and the royal coat of arms (if that's possible for a coat of arms info box - otherwise, two info boxes). The versions could be placed below in suitable sections. Also, the info box should show the date that the Soviet era design was disallowed, as well as the date it was approved. And in the article, I think "current design" should be avoided, and "Soviet era design" and "royal coat of arms" or "royal design" used instead. I'd also suggest not starting with Design and Usage sections, but rather with History, describing within that the design and usages of the royal coat of arms, then the Soviet era coat of arms, then the post-annexation controversy. This is not something I know anything about (coats of arms, or Crimean history), but I offer these suggestions that I think would make the article more neutral. RebeccaGreen (talk) 18:58, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Hey RebeccaGreen, sorry for the late response. I hear what you're saying but I don't think it would be 100% accurate to give equal weight to the two coat of arms since the Soviet-era one is widely used, and is the one set by a decree by Dmitry Ovsyannikov. I attempted to put the two coat of arms side by side in one infobox but it doesn't quite work. I can definitely reword it and make another infobox for the royal one and see how that looks. Thanks, Toreightyone (talk) 16:03, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Babak (Sasanian officer)

  • ... that after establishing the reformed army of the empire, the Persian officer Babak asked King Khosrow I to wear his armor and participate in the military parade like all the other warriors? Source: "but he would send them back and have them come the next day until “everyone,” meaning King Ḵosrow, would also present himself, properly dressed and fully armed; otherwise he would not be given his annual sum." [10]

5x expanded by ZxxZxxZ (talk). Self-nominated at 19:37, 14 August 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This article is a five-fold expansion and is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright or plagiarism issues. A QPQ needs to be done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:38, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
  • @Cwmhiraeth: The QPQ check shows that the nominator only had one prior nomination. SL93 (talk) 22:50, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
  • @ZxxZxxZ: Looking at the nominator's talk page, the tool is wrong. Sorry, Cwmhiraeth. SL93 (talk) 22:55, 19 September 2019 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on August 15

Eagle Woman

  • ... that the Sioux's first and only female chief, Eagle Woman, was called "the most noted Indian woman of all the western Indian nations", aside from Sacagawea? Source: 1
    • ALT1:... that the Sioux's first and only female chief, Eagle Woman, helped her people adapt after they were forced onto reservations? Source: "When the Sioux War ended in the early 1880s, Eagle Woman again played an instrumental role in easing the transition to reservation living for her people." 1
    • ALT2:... that Eagle Woman, the first woman to become a chief among the Sioux, helped her people adapt after they were forced onto reservations? Source: "When the Sioux War ended in the early 1880s, Eagle Woman again played an instrumental role in easing the transition to reservation living for her people." 1 "Because these tribes were giving up their way of life, Mrs. Galpin adopted a new mission: “to help the Sioux to learn and to adapt.”" 2
    • ALT3:... that Eagle Woman, the first woman to become a chief among the Sioux, was called "the most noted Indian woman of all the western Indian nations", aside from Sacagawea? Source: 1
  • Reviewed: (in progress)
  • Comment: I think this article should be reviewed by someone who knows the right words for native/indigenous issues before DYK goes through. Also not sure about the hooks.

Created by Originalmess (talk). Self-nominated at 18:42, 21 August 2019 (UTC).

  • General eligiblity:

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Red XN - Issues for ALT and ALT1: "first and only female chief" - the source states "the only woman to become a chief of the Sioux" but dates to 1986, so it is possible someone else has become a female chief since then. "first" would be acceptable based on the source cited. Issues for ALT: "the most noted Indian woman of all the western Indian nations" - the source refers to her as "Matilda Parkin", which appears to be the same person as "Matilda Galpin" and "Eagle Woman", but this "Matilda Parkin" naming of her is not mentioned in the Wikipedia article. 3) inconsistent spellings of "Sacagawea" (Wiki link name), "Sacajawea" (DYK nom) and "Sakakawea" (Eagle Woman article, source cited): use Sakakawea in article & DYK to resolve. Further review of ALT1: "adapt" is supported by the cited source.
  • Interesting: Green tickY

QPQ: Red XN - ?
Overall: Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Created on August 15, nominated August 21, 2019; Earwig does not report significant copyvios. QPQ pending. I agree that a culturally-sensitive review is desirable before release. Hooks need work. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 20:27, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

I think the phrase "chief of the Sioux" might be misunderstood to mean leadership over all the Sioux, but I'm not sure what a good alternative phrasing would be. Kim Post (talk) 14:00, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
  • I've rephrased the sentence to read "the first woman to become a chief among the Sioux" to address this. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 14:22, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
Sorry about the late response, I should be free enough to do more editing/look for someone to do a culturally sensitive review a bit later tonight. Thanks for the rephrasing, that's definitely clearer for readers who don't know the Sioux had/have multiple chiefs at once. originalmesshow u doin that busta rhyme? 18:47, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
Added new hooks using Mary Mark Ockerbloom's phrasing. Does it sound hookier starting with "first woman" or with "Eagle Woman"? originalmesshow u doin that busta rhyme? 19:36, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full new review needed; the article has been expanded and had many edits in September. Note the prior requests for a culturally sensitive review. Thanks to whoever takes this on. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:09, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 17

Cebu City Council

  • ... that the Cebu City Council sits at the Cebu City Hall and convenes its session in the Dona Eva Macaraeg-Macapagal Session Hall of the Cebu City Legislative Building (CCLB)? Source: "GMA inaugurates legislative building". The Freeman. 2008-07-25. Retrieved 2019-08-14.
  • ALT1:... that Cebu City's two councilor districts elects eight councilors to the Cebu City Council? Source: Congress of the Philippines (6 November 1987). "Republic Act No. 6636 - An Act resetting the local elections from November 9, 1987 to January 18, 1988, amending for this purpose Executive Order numbered two hundred and seventy". The Official Gazette of the Republic of the Philippines. Retrieved 2019-08-19.
  • ALT2:... that the first ordinance passed by the Cebu City Council is the regulation of establishment and maintenance of cockpits in the City of Cebu becoming the first cockpit ordinance in the Philippines? Source: Clarence Paul Oaminal (2016-10-05). "The Dela Victoria's cockpit ordinance". The Freeman. Retrieved 2019-08-28.
  • ALT3:... that the Cebu City Council was left with 3 members on May 17, 2016 after 12 of its members together with the Mayor and Vice Mayor were suspended and 2 of its members were appointed as Acting Mayor and Acting Vice Mayor? Source: "Suspension order served vs Cebu mayor, 13 others". ABS-CBN News. 2016-05-17. Retrieved 2019-08-18.
  • ALT4:... that the Cebu City Council convenes its session in the Dona Eva Macaraeg-Macapagal Session Hall named after Eva Macaraeg-Macapagal, the mother of former President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo? Source: "PGMA inaugurates Cebu City's new session hall named after her late mother Doña Eva". Philippine Information Agency. 2008-07-24. Retrieved 2019-08-24.

Created by Emperork (talk). Self-nominated at 13:15, 24 August 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Emperork, welcome back to DYK! As best I can tell, this is your third submission, the last two having been in late 2006, nearly thirteen years ago. Things have changed a bit since you were last here.
Nominations need to be made within seven days of an article's creation or fivefold expansion. You created the article back on July 3, over seven weeks ago, so it can't count as a new creation. Seven days takes us back to August 17; it was 1793 prose characters immediately prior to the expansion that started that day, so a 5x expansion would require 8965 prose characters; the article is currently 5966 prose characters, or 2999 short of a 5x expansion.
In addition, neither of the hooks you have proposed are sufficiently interesting per the DYK rules, which require a definite fact that is mentioned in the article and interesting to a broad audience.
Since it has been so long since you participated here at DYK, I think we can allow some leniency: prior to some additions on August 14, ten days before the nomination, the article was 1614 prose characters, which would require an expansion to 8070 prose characters only, or an additional 2104 (rather than 2999). I don't know whether that would be feasible, however.
Another change since your last DYK submission is that we now accept newly approved Good Articles, and I see that you've just nominated the article to be one. Should this nomination not succeed, but your GA nomination ultimately does, just nominate the new GA here within seven days; there are no expansion requirements for GAs.
Please let me know if you have any questions, and how you would like to proceed. Thanks again for submitting to DYK. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:35, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi! Thanks for the insight. I am currently expanding the article. Can I also change the hooks or maybe add in this nomination? Emperork (talk) 22:25, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
The article has now 9,672 characters. Hope you can recheck. Thanks! Emperork (talk) 01:15, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
  • I would also have to note that some paragraphs don't have a reference, such as in the membership section. As a Filipino myself, I don't think any of the hooks would appeal to those unfamiliar with Philippine politics, so a new hook is likely needed. I tried thinking of some but none come to mind right now; I'll comment back if I think of anything. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:22, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
  • ALT2, with some tweaking, might be interesting, as cock fighting is illegal in many parts of the world, so it's not something that councils in the UK, US or Australia, for example, would pass ordinances about. RebeccaGreen (talk)
There's probably a better wording to use than "cockfighting venues" (I'd use cockpits, but that language might not be clear to those unfamiliar with cockfighting). I'd also strongly recommend that this go through WP:GOCE/R too as I think the article's wording still needs a lot of work. Any thoughts on these @RebeccaGreen:? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 21:53, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
@Emperork: Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 21:54, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
The alternative ALT2 wording seems fine with me. - Emperork (talk) 14:00, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. Pinging RebeccaGreen to give this another look. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:17, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
Narutolovehinata5, Emperork: ALT2a wording seems fine to me. I agree that the meaning of "cockpits" in this context would not be clear to many readers. As this article hasn't been reviewed apart from consideration of its newness and length, it needs a full review, but if a WP:GOCE/R hasn't been requested yet, I guess that should happen first. RebeccaGreen (talk) 12:13, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
Already submitted this to WP:GOCE/R for review. - Emperork (talk) 13:20, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

John McLean (explorer)

  • ... that, despite what the historical marker says, John McLean (pictured) was not the first white man to cross Labrador?
    • ALT1:... that Scoto-Canadian author John McLean (pictured) considered the War of 1812 an act of unprovoked American aggression but complimented American English as "elegance itself"?
    • ALT2:... that explorer and fur trader John McLean (pictured) was secretly Viator, the writer sometimes credited with saving the western half of Canada from American annexation?
    • ALT3:... that John McLean (pictured) was the first European to find Canada's Churchill Falls?
    • ALT4:... that John McLean (pictured) was the first European to find Canada's Churchill Falls, an accomplishment that posthumously became less impressive when a hydro project diverted almost all its water?
    • ALT5:... that, after his monopolist employer repeatedly passed him over for promotion, ruined his health, and refused him a pension, John McLean (pictured) spent his retirement starting a conservative newspaper?
    • ALT6:... that Scottish-Canadian grocer John McLean (pictured) was forced to admit that dog was "food for the gods"?
    • ALT7:... that Canadian trapper and author John McLean (pictured) felt that the Hudson's Bay Company owed its success to the Quebecker Northwesters?
    • ALT8:... that, expecting "to fare like a dog" in British Columbia, John McLean (pictured) found instead that it was the most beautiful place he'd seen in Canada?
    • ALT9:... that trapper, trader, and explorer John McLean (pictured) took his first vacation in 20 years to visit his mother in Scotland?
    • ALT10:... that John McLean (pictured) was "a person of intelligence and information beyond what one might expect from a man who has all his life been scraping beaver skins together"?
    • ALT11:... that John McLean (pictured) is sometimes credited with having saved western Canada from American annexation?
  • Reviewed: Will do. Zhai Xiangjun
  • Comment: Don't worry. You only need to review the hook most interesting to you. There's a lot to this guy/article, so if you prefer other hooks instead (his first wife the Métis or his second and the bank robber etc.), I can figure it out. Kindly don't add extraneous links to the hooks above. If people want to learn more, they can click through to the article I've worked on, learn some stuff, and move on from there.

Created by LlywelynII (talk). Self-nominated at 21:14, 19 August 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg This article is about a Scotsman and his work and travels in North America in the 19th century. It makes heavy use of the subject's memoirs, and some quotations and information from them are unnecessarily long or unnecessary altogether. The memoir and McLean's other book are listed in the article, but should also be included in the bibliography under References, since they are used as sources. Other 19th- and early 20th-century sources are only used for uncontroversial claims, and are complemented by a good selection of modern sources.
There is an issue with readability. Some sentences are full of details about travel stops, how long it took to cover a particular distance etc. This flows poorly, and while the info can be fun in a travelogue, it isn't relevant in an encyclopedia unless there is something remarkably about it (if there is, that's not clear in the article). I suggest that some quotations are removed or replaced with very brief summaries, and that less relevant details about specific journeys are removed.
There are many alternative hooks. ALT5 is just above the 200 character limit. The rest are short enough and interesting. I'll focus on the first one, assuming that's the one the nominator prefers. Bryant (1892), pp. 5–6 makes it clear that McLean was not the first to cross the Labrador Peninsula, although the text in the article comes dangerously close to WP:SYNTH. The text says that it is "sometimes" claimed that McLean was first, but it's sourced with one example in the form of a memory plaque. It would be more accurate to simply say that a plaque claims this, unless it can be replaced with a source that uses "sometimes" or has more examples. It is also slightly spurious to write that McLean "credited Erlandson's earlier trek", when the original claim was about being "the first European to have crossed the entire peninsula". The source neither mentions Erlandson by name nor anything about ethnicity. (The plaque does this, but it's still very close to synthesis). Maybe there is another source that can get around this, otherwise it's probably best to reword the note.
Other than that everything looks good. The article was nominated for DYK two days after its creation, the prose size is grand, there are no copyright violations, everything is sourced, QPQ is done. Ffranc (talk) 18:07, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Mike Wallace Is Here

Created/expanded by CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk). Self-nominated at 11:08, 20 August 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The date and the length of the article are OK, and the article is well sourced. I have a bit of an issue with hookiness of the hook, as currently given. The hook misses the most interesting part, which is that Wallace was already dead when Belkin wanted to interview him. I suggest that you use an alt hook. Something along the lines of: "... that the film director Avi Belkin wanted to interview an American journalist, Mike Wallace, after Wallace's death, and that led to creation of an archival documentary Mike Wallace Is Here?". In that case the hooked sentence at the start of the Production section of the article would need to be adjusted as well. Nsk92 (talk) 10:12, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
  • @CAPTAIN MEDUSA Ok, thanks, I see that you have added an ALT1 hook. The length of ALT1, at 188 characters, is OK. However, the first sentence of Mike Wallace Is Here#Production still needs to be tweaked, to more precisely correspond to ALT1 hook. Perhaps something like "Film director, Avi Belkin wanted to do a interview with American journalist, Mike Wallace, after Wallace's death." Nsk92 (talk) 10:47, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
@Nsk92: i have added to production section. also use {{re|addusernamehere}} to notify other users. Thanks.___CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 12:11, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
@CAPTAIN MEDUSA: Ok, very good, thanks. Everything looks pretty good in the article right now. I'll take another look later today to double-check everything, and if nothing else comes up, I'll approve the nomination.Nsk92 (talk) 12:19, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
Nsk92, Thanks.___CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 12:21, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
@CAPTAIN MEDUSA: Oops, I just noticed that your QPQ is still listed as 'soon'. That will need to be taken care off before the final approval. Nsk92 (talk) 12:27, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
@CAPTAIN MEDUSA: OK, I double-checked the article and the hook, and everything looks good. The only thing missing is the QPQ. Once you have taken care of QPQ, please ping me and I'll formally approve this nomination. Thanks, Nsk92 (talk) 15:45, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
Nsk92, QPQ has been completed.___CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 11:06, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
@CAPTAIN MEDUSA: Hmm, I see that Template:Did you know nominations/Josh Yorwerth is still not quite completed since the nominator there has not yet provided their QPQ. My understanding of the DYK rules is that for QPQ purposes the nomination you have reviewed must be either marked with File:Symbol confirmed.svg (or marked as declined if the nomination was declined). Nsk92 (talk) 11:27, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
Nsk92, I have reviewed the nom. However, when the user will add QPQ I will approve the nom. Hmmmmm QPQ rules doesn't state that It needs to be approved or else. Is there something.......___CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 11:33, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
@CAPTAIN MEDUSA: I find the DYK rules on this issue to be confusing and insufficiently detailed. I have just asked for clarification at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#QPQ completion?. Let's see what the others say. Nsk92 (talk) 11:41, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
Nsk92, far as I am aware that if you add tick, or maybe to a nom that counts as being reviewed. Let's see what other editors think.___CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 11:44, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg@CAPTAIN MEDUSA: After a clarification at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#QPQ completion?, I am approving ALT1 hook. (I also saw that you updated your review of Template:Did you know nominations/Josh Yorwerth, using the DYKchecklist template, to indicate that the various required DYK elements have been checked). Thanks, Nsk92 (talk) 16:13, 6 September 2019 (UTC)


QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg returned for further work Nsk92 (talk) 16:08, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Returned from prep for a copyedit of the article and a better hook. @CAPTAIN MEDUSA: You are interpreting this too literally: Film director, Avi Belkin wanted to do a interview with American journalist, Mike Wallace, after his death. He did not want to interview a dead person, but to produce a documentary of Mike Wallace. @Nsk92: while you are allowed to help the nomination by proposing new hook wording, per Rule H2 you are not allowed to review your own hook. The article desperately needs a copyedit for English grammar; perhaps WP:GOCE can assist. There are other interesting facts in the article to produce a better hook. Yoninah (talk) 19:54, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
@Yoninah: Ok, thanks. Not being a native English speaker myself, it is harder for me to spot minor grammar errors. Regarding proceeding further, do you think that I should continue the review? Or is it better to let another reviewer do that? Thanks, Nsk92 (talk) 19:59, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Nsk92 well, that is going to be a problem for your future reviews. Articles that are featured on the main page need to satisfy all Wikipedia guidelines, including being readable.
  • I think we should wait for CAPTAIN MEDUSA to respond here. I'm also thinking that all the sources need to be reviewed to see if CAPTAIN MEDUSA reported them correctly (actually, I would prefer CAPTAIN MEDUSA doing that, since it's his submission). I'll watchlist this page to handle further developments. Yoninah (talk) 20:03, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
Article was submitted to GOCE back in August. All the content in the article has been reported correctly.___CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 11:39, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Sorry, sentences like these are not grammatically correct: Belkin, film director whilst getting into this project he was not anticipating to get into Wallace's personal life. I will do an edit of the article later, when I have time. Yoninah (talk) 12:15, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 18

Kate Dover, Thomas Skinner (etcher), Crown vs Kate Dover

  • ... that Kate Dover killed Thomas Skinner by arsenic poisoning? "The poisoning case at Sheffield, sentence on Kate Dover". The Dundee Advertiser. Dundee. 10 February 1882. p. 10 col7. Retrieved 13 July 2019 – via British Newspaper Archive.
    • ALT1:... that Kate Dover killed Thomas Skinner by cooking him a roast dinner with arsenic in the stuffing? "The Sheffield poisoning case, trial of Kate Dover". Supplement to the Sheffield and Rotherham Independent. Sheffield. 11 February 1882. p. 10 col1. Retrieved 13 July 2019 – via British Newspaper Archive.

Created by Storye book (talk). Self-nominated at 15:20, 18 August 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I came here to review the hooks (with a preference for ALT1, as ALT0 is not as eyecatching), but reading through Dover's article, it's almost entirely about the crime and her trial, and only a few short paragraphs about her personal life (in contrast to Skinner's article, which seems to be a lot more thorough on the rest of his life). Could this be addressed? In addition, the section headings "The perpetrator, Kate Dover" and "The victim, Thomas Skinner" among others seem to be non-standard. Could this be addressed? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:28, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Thank you very much for the heads up on those problems. I agree, and have changed section headings and moved page as you requested. Please let me know if you find any further problems. I have also corrected the link in both ALTs. Storye book (talk) 07:50, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
  • I have had a re-think about whether this should be a biography or not, and what a biography of this woman should consist of, and why it should be different from Thomas Skinner's biography. I created the article in response to the Women in Red project, bearing in mind that not all notable women's biographies can consist of lists of worthy achievements. The value of Kate Dover's trial is not ultimately the schadenfreude of seeing the man who hit her get poisoned, or of seeing the poisoner imprisoned for life with hard labour. The value of the trial in this article is the extraordinary view, that the reporters' obsession with Kate Dover gives us, of the complexity of her character, and of the multiple 19th-century social influences which bore on her life. This girl had it all - youth, looks, a surprising standard of literacy for her position at that time, and artistic skill. But at the same time she had clear fatal flaws and disadvantages (one being her perjuring, helicopter mother) - all laid out for us to see in the reportage of her trial. What really worries me is when I look at the article's infobox, which should really be changed to one suitable for the trial (if there is one) or none at all. And will I then have to remove most of Kate's background biographical material because it doesn't fit the new article title. One of the main reasons why historical articles about women are so much in the minority on WP is that in the past women's lives were mostly unreported, unrecorded and therefore not seen by us, so that biographies of men like Skinner appear more valid on WP today, and criminal women fade into nothing until their trial becomes the subject, and not them. The trial gave us an opportunity to see Kate Dover's character clearly. I'm not sure where to go from here, though one thing I'm sure of is that the full details of Kate Dover and her life should be preserved here. 08:48, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
  • ALT2 ... that Kate Dover killed Thomas Skinner by arsenic poisoning, but was not convicted of murder? "The poisoning case at Sheffield, sentence on Kate Dover". The Dundee Advertiser. Dundee. 10 February 1882. p. 10 col7. Retrieved 13 July 2019 – via British Newspaper Archive.
  • ALT3 :... that In 1882 Kate Dover killed Thomas Skinner by cooking him a roast dinner with arsenic in the stuffing, but was not hanged? "The Sheffield poisoning case, trial of Kate Dover". Supplement to the Sheffield and Rotherham Independent. Sheffield. 11 February 1882. p. 10 col1. Retrieved 13 July 2019 – via British Newspaper Archive. and "The poisoning case at Sheffield, sentence on Kate Dover". The Dundee Advertiser. Dundee. 10 February 1882. p. 10 col7. Retrieved 13 July 2019 – via British Newspaper Archive.
  • Update: I think I have now resolved the above confusion about whether or not the article should be a biography. I have split the two original articles into three - so we now have Kate Dover, Trial of Kate Dover, and Thomas Skinner (etcher). I have struck out the first two hooks because they only contain two of the articles, and replaced them with ALTs 2 and 3. I hope that this is now acceptable. Thank you to those who have advised me - your help was very useful. Storye book (talk) 15:16, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
  • @ Admin. My apologies for the inconvenience - the template-name will have to be adjusted again, this time for three articles. Thank you. Storye book (talk) 15:16, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Note: I have just realised that this is now a triple nom, so it needs a third QPQ. I have added it (see above). Storye book (talk) 11:35, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thank you for the edits. Due to limited time, I will be unable to continue reviewing this nomination, so I will leave the rest to Mary Mark Ockerbloom or another editor. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:17, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed from new reviewer. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:01, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Note to new reviewer. The articlesThomas Skinner (etcher), and Crown vs Kate Dover are ready for review. However the Kate Dover article has been the subject of a determined negative focus by a single editor. I am happy to improve the article to WP standards, but it has been impossible to work on the article in mainspace in those circumstances. Therefore I have temporarily userfied a copy of the Kate Dover article so that I can work on it properly. In a week or two I hope to be able to replace the current form of the article with a better one, in a single edit. Please see the article's history and its talk page for further information. I shall post here when Kate Dover is ready for review. Thank you for your patience. Storye book (talk) 08:45, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 22

Erland Erlandson

The hooks don't use this picture but it still looks cool.
  • ... that the Hudson's Bay Company recruited the Danish explorer Erland Erlandson from a British prison ship?
    • ALT1:... that Canadian historians wonder whether explorer Erland Erlandson robbed his boss's bank?
    • ALT2:... that Dano-Canadian explorer Erland Erlandson may have robbed a bank but left the money to the Toronto General Hospital?
    • ALT3:... that the Danish carpenter Erland Erlandson became the first European to cross the Labrador Peninsula because his guides didn't follow his instructions?
    • ALT3a:... that, because his guides didn't follow his instructions, the Danish carpenter Erland Erlandson became the first European to cross the Labrador Peninsula?
    • ALT4:... that the Hudson's Bay Company promoted Erland Erlandson quickly for being a good servant but balked at making him management because he was Danish?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Betty Cantor-Jackson
  • Comment: You only need to review the one hook you like best. Kindly avoid adding extraneous links to the hooks; we're here to promote new/improve articles, not to send more traffic to Canadian historiography or HBC, and the curious can click through and learn sth about the article that has been worked on.

Created by LlywelynII (talk). Self-nominated at 20:49, 22 August 2019 (UTC).

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg ALT2 and ALT3/3a approved. Image would be appropriate with ALT3/3a.
I have struck ALT0, ALT1 and ALT4 because they are not fully supported by the article or the sources (ALT0: he was held in a prison ship; he was recruited the following year after the war ended; ALT1: the source does not say who suspected him of robbing a bank; ALT4: the article and source say because he was "a foreigner and raised from the ranks.", not just because he was Danish.)
In ALT2, I have changed "donated" to "left" ("bequeathed" would also be fine), as "donated" suggests to me that he gave it during his life, while 'left' or 'bequeathed' make clear that it was after he died. I'm not sure about "may have robbed a bank" - that is ambiguous, and could mean "he did it, but anyway he gave the money away" or "it's not known if he robbed a bank or not". Maybe that's OK in a hook.
ALT3 is fine - I have changed the order as in ALT3a, so it's clear that he was the first European to cross it, not just the first of the Europeans whose guides didn't obey them ... but perhaps it's better to have the subject upfront. RebeccaGreen (talk) 22:13, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but I don't see him being credited as crossing the Labrador Peninsula in any of the sources. Each source gives a different route that he crossed, but none of them say the Labrador Peninsula. Yoninah (talk) 22:52, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi Yoninah, they don't specifically say "crossed the Labrador Peninsula", but the Dictionary of Canadian Biography says "The party left Fort Chimo on 6 April 1834 ... On 22 June they reached the western end of tidal Lake Melville (in the area of present-day Goose Bay, Labrador) and Erlandson thus became the first European to travel overland from Hudson Strait to the Atlantic coast." From the Hudson Strait to the Atlantic Coast is south-east across the Labrador Peninsula. The Woman Who Mapped Labrador source says he went from Fort Chimo to the settlement of North West River (which is at the western end of tidal Lake Melville). The North American Exploration source says he went from Fort Chimo to Lake Melville and Hamilton Inlet on the Labrador Coast. This article describes how Erlandson and his guides went from Fort Chimo ... "followed the Whale River to Lakes Petitsikapau and Michikamau ... Passing through a series of small lakes to the Naskaupi and Grand Lake, they reached Goose Bay—the deepest inlet of Esquimaux Bay (now Groswater Bay)—on June 22nd." The hook could of course say "the first to cross from the Hudson Strait to the Atlantic Coast" or "the first to cross from Fort Chimo to North West River", but no one is going to know where they are - especially the latter. They are places on different ends of the Labrador Peninsula, so going from one to the other means crossing it. I did not feel that this was WP:SYNTH or WP:OR - they are places on a map. However, if you're not happy with it, perhaps we should ask the nominator for other suggestions? RebeccaGreen (talk) 00:01, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi again Yoninah, a quick google shows that John McLean (explorer) has been mistakenly described as "the first white man to cross the Labrador peninsula from Ungava Bay to Hamilton Inlet" [12], so following that idea, perhaps a tweak like one of these would solve the problem?
ALT3b: ... that because his guides didn't follow his instructions, the Danish carpenter Erland Erlandson became the first European to cross the Labrador Peninsula from the Hudson Strait to the Atlantic Coast?
ALT3c: ... that because his guides misled him, the Danish carpenter Erland Erlandson became the first European to cross the Labrador Peninsula from the Hudson Strait to the Atlantic Coast?
- using another way to say "didn't follow his instructions" to make the hook a bit shorter in ALT3c. RebeccaGreen (talk) 01:51, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Hi. Even if you choose not to reconstruct the route or to insist on the word 'Labrador' appearing in a source, which is doable but time consuming, I fail to see why any of that is a reason to hold up the nomination. Ms Green didn't need to check all the hooks but apparently did anyway. Just use the verified ALT2. — LlywelynII 03:54, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
  • What are you saying? You provided a list of hooks and we are trying to verify them. RebeccaGreen simply wrote down all the sources that I checked. I prefer to use the "guides misled him" hook and will consider Rebecca's alts shortly. Yoninah (talk) 09:27, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg It would be good if another reviewer could check ALT3b and ALT3c, tweaked by me after Yoninah's feedback. RebeccaGreen (talk) 14:51, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Coming here to comment and not (yet) to review, but ALT3b and ALT3c both read a bit too long or too winding. Is there a way to make the crossing wording snappier? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:12, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Well, it was snappier when it just said the first to cross the Labrador Peninsula ....
ALT3d: ... that Erland Erlandson became the first European to cross the Labrador Peninsula from the Hudson Strait to the Atlantic Coast when his guides misled him?
ALT3e: ... that Erland Erlandson became the first European to travel overland from the Hudson Strait to the Atlantic Coast when his guides misled him?
ALT3f: ... that Erland Erlandson was the first European to cross the Labrador Peninsula from the Hudson Strait to the Atlantic Coast?
I would bluelink Hudson Strait, but LlywelynII has requested no other links. RebeccaGreen (talk) 05:24, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
I don't think it's an issue to have more than one blue link here considering these geographic locations may not be familiar to all audiences (at least with Labrador and Hudson; I'd assume many readers don't even know they're in Canada and would only know from context because of Atlantic Coast). Would it also be a good idea to highlight the "misleading" part more? That actually sounds interesting too and adds to the flavor of being the "first". Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:31, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi Narutolovehinata5, well, that was in the earlier versions, ALT3, ALT3a and ALT3b. What about:
ALT3g: ... that Erland Erlandson became the first European to cross the Labrador Peninsula from the Hudson Strait to the Atlantic Coast, because his guides didn't follow his instructions?
RebeccaGreen (talk) 18:54, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
I think that's okay, but I was thinking of something closer to ALT1c (i.e. mentioning the "misleading" first), as it gives contrast and makes the hook arguably more interesting. I'd like to hear the nominator's thoughts first, though. But just to make it clear: I'd suggest against not linking the places as not everyone is well-versed in Canadian geography, and while I understand the intent of wanting to promote Canadian history more, I'm not sure why it's considered to be a bad idea to not also promote Canadian geography while doing so. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:18, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
ALT3h: ... that because his guides didn't follow his instructions, Erland Erlandson became the first European to cross the Labrador Peninsula from the Hudson Strait to the Atlantic Coast?
ALT3i: ... that because his guides misled him, Erland Erlandson became the first European to cross the Labrador Peninsula from the Hudson Strait to the Atlantic Coast?
ALT3j: ... that because his Innu guides didn't follow his instructions, Erland Erlandson became the first European to cross the Labrador Peninsula from the Hudson Strait to the Atlantic Coast?
ALT3k: ... that because his Innu guides misled him, Erland Erlandson became the first European to cross the Labrador Peninsula from the Hudson Strait to the Atlantic Coast?
I don't know if LlywelynII has any preference, apart from not wanting bluelinks ... RebeccaGreen (talk) 01:45, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
Narutolovehinata5, it can be counterproductive to distract from the nominated article by putting in unnecessary extra links to click, since it's easy to get side-tracked by one and never actually get to the nominated article. That's always a tension in building a hook. If people don't find what they need in the nominated article, they can easily click on the links there. For this hook, isn't it enough to know that a never-before-crossed peninsula (by Europeans) between two named points (one definitely familiar) was done because the person the article is about was misled or taken on a trip he didn't want, without including the links here? I'm assuming ALT2 has not been selected due to promoters also being unsure about the "may have robbed a bank" wording that the reviewer highlighted. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:15, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 26

Nurul Alam Chowdhury

  • ... that Nurul Alam Chowdhury was the youngest MP in the 1st parliament of Bangladesh? Source: বর্ষীয়ান রাজনীতিক নূরুল আলম চৌধুরীর প্রয়াণ, সাবেক সাংসদ ও কূটনৈতিক নূরুল আলম চৌধুরী আর নেই, সাবেক সংসদ সদস্য নুরুল আলম আর নেই and শ্রদ্ধাঞ্জলি : নুরুল আলম চৌধুরী ‘তুই এমপি হবি’

Created by S. M. Nazmus Shakib (talk). Self-nominated at 17:33, 26 August 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svgAt 927 characters this seems too short for DYK, and the grammar needs some work. AGFing on the sourcing (the Google Translate results of the sources are obviously nonsense - a 12 year old parliamentarian?) but some of the infobox data are not supported by the article. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:20, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for your review. Google translation didn't give you proper result. Minimum age to become an MP in Bangladesh is 25.(see Qualifications and disqualifications for election to Parliament) Nurul Alam Chowdhury was the youngest MP in the 1st Parliament of a country. So, I want this to feature on DYK.--S. M. Nazmus Shakib (talk) 10:36, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
@S. M. Nazmus Shakib:Yeah, my "nonsense" comment was that I can't rely on Google Translate to check the sources as the translations are obviously incorrect. But the point that we need more prose here still stands. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:13, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
@Jo-Jo Eumerus: I have added some texts. I think it is enough long for DYK.--S. M. Nazmus Shakib (talk) 09:53, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
Yes, but the infobox needs some sourcing, and I think the article text could also use some prose cleanup; right now it's very choppy. I also wonder if someone can spot-check the sources... Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 11:59, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
@Jo-Jo Eumerus: The texts are reorganized. A source is added to infobox too.--S. M. Nazmus Shakib (talk) 12:48, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
I am not sure about whether their party membership is sourced. I've requested a source spot-check at WT:IN. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:12, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
Bangla is the language of both Bangladesh and India. @Jo-Jo Eumerus:, you can verify the DYK on Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for Bangladesh-related topics too.--S. M. Nazmus Shakib (talk) 16:34, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

Hermann Oestrich

  • Reviewed: Roman temple of Bziza
  • Comment: Sorry, I missed by a few days, being busy in real life and this not "my" article.

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 14:25, 4 September 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article is long enough and I'm using WP:IAR for being a few days late. The hook is directly cited and a QPQ has been completed. I assume good faith on the references that I can't access. There is a citation needed tag that needs to be taken care of. SL93 (talk) 18:40, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
I added a reference. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:57, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
Symbol voting keep.svg Thank you. SL93 (talk) 19:13, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but did not see the hook fact in the article. Please review my edit and confirm that this is what it says in the book, which I am unable to view. We have two articles, Snecma Atar and SNECMA Atar 101, both of which mention Oestrich. Yoninah (talk) 00:58, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
  • @Gerda Arendt: @Dr. Blofeld:. SL93 (talk) 04:40, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for catching that, Yoninah. I also can't see the book, but this seems the correct article. (Why do we have 2?) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:05, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
Having tried to answer that question, I am not so sure any more. The article you inserted is a specific type, while the general article describes the whole development (vs. one specific engine), which may be what he was honoured for. Dr. Blofeld? If this is the case:
ALT1* ... that the German engineer Hermann Oestrich became a Knight of the Legion of Honour for developing the Snecma Atar turbines?
Anyway, someone with knowledge should unify if it's Snecma or SNECMA. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:12, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
A drive-by comment, but the article on the company (which is now known as Safran) suggest that it's "Snecma", though I've seen both forms in common use online. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:26, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Same for me, that's why I asked. It may also have been changed over time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:05, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Yes, originally SNECMA, for Société nationale d'études et de construction de moteurs d'aviation similar to the other nationalised aircraft conglomerates like SNCASE and SNCASO.Petebutt (talk) 06:29, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
@Yoninah: I'm not sure what happened, but SNECMA Atar 101 was originally created as a redirect to Snecma Atar. Snecma Atar was created in 2005 and the new article from a redirect was in 2013. SL93 (talk) 20:34, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Pinging editor that created the article over a redirect - @Petebutt: SL93 (talk) 20:37, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
The ATAR 101 was the first engine produced by ATAR / SNECMA. The later ATAR 8 and ATAR 9 were similar looking, but actually almost completely different designs. The SNECMA ATAR article would sensibly concentrt\ate om the later SNECMA derivatives:- the ATAR 8 and ATAR 9. I just didn't get around to it.--Petebutt (talk) 06:25, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
It looks like you'd say SNECMA, not Snecma, which was the question, - thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:44, 21 September 2019 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on August 28

Special Area Games Scheme

  • ... that sports promotional scheme Special Area Games of India tries to find and train genetically gifted people? Source: "Livemint"

Moved to mainspace by Deepak G Goswami (talk). Self-nominated at 17:18, 28 August 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Before this can be promoted, this probably needs to be copyedited to fix the grammar and other wordings. I've made a request at WP:GOCE/R for the article. @Deepak G Goswami: In addition, perhaps a catchier hook may need to be proposed as the current one is kind of pedestrian. Perhaps a hook could be proposed based on the fact that one of the related tournaments (the Khasi Cup) has a goat as its top prize? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:18, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 29

Amy Brown (dietitian)

  • ... that Professor Amy Brown researches social barriers to breastfeeding, one of which is that British people believe that smacking children is more acceptable than breastfeeding in public? Source: [1][2]

Created by Nejaby (talk). Self-nominated at 16:43, 29 August 2019 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg the hook is not mentioned in the article. The hook needs to be rewritten. I've fixed the template for you. Also, make sure to read the rules of dyk at WP:DYKRULES. Pining @Nejaby:.___CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 09:47, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing the template Pining @CAPTAIN MEDUSA:. I have amended to include only text in the article. Will do a couple of reviews since this is my second DYK article. Nejaby (talk) 14:08, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Changing breastfeeding policies worldwide - Economic and Social Research Council". esrc.ukri.org. Retrieved 2019-08-29.
  2. ^ Dean, Sam (2016-09-09). "Britain has world's lowest breastfeeding rates because young mothers are pressured to 'get their lives back', expert says". The Telegraph. ISSN 0307-1235. Retrieved 2019-08-29.

Articles created/expanded on September 2

2019 Chungju World Martial Arts Masterships

* ... that the 2019 Chungju World Martial Arts Masterships feature 3,119 martial artists from 106 countries who compete in 20 different martial arts areas over 275 medals? [1]

:* ALT2 ... that the 2019 Chungju World Martial Arts Masterships is the only international martial arts competition in the world? [3]

  • Reviewed: Exempt-fewer than 5 DYK credits (this is my 2nd dyk)

Created by Taewangkorea (talk). Self-nominated at 12:52, 2 September 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @Taewangkorea: While DYK requirements appear to be met (with the full review to follow soon), I have some reservations about the hook. Specifically, while those numbers are impressive and arguably interesting, I'm not sure if it's unique enough since as far as I can tell several sporting events have similar numbers of events and participants. We could still go with it if nothing else can be suggested, but for now it might be a good idea to try thinking of other alternative options. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:30, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
Is there a source that talks about this being the most participated martial arts event? Sheer numbers mean very little. 3,000 could be a very small number for participant at an event. Is there anything particularly notable for a regular reader here? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 11:08, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
@Lee Vilenski and Narutolovehinata5: Perhaps ALT1? Taewangkorea (talk) 17:48, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
I suppose ALT1 is more promising, but the Korean source provided (based on Google Translate) seems to be vague on whether or not it was the biggest to date, or simply the biggest this year or the biggest iteration of the WMA Masterships. More importantly, the article seems to have a promotional tone and in some parts (such as in section two) reads more like an advertisement than a Wikipedia article. The article would thus need to be rewritten to tone down the writing. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:21, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: I have rewritten quite a bit of the article, including the 2nd section, so that it would be less promotional. As for the Korean sourcing, the source for ALT1 says that it is the biggest to date, but Google translate makes it really more vague. If you do not think that this would be enough, I have attached an ALT2 with a source that is more clear through Google Translate (but I still prefer ALT1). Thanks, Taewangkorea (talk) 05:57, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
I think ALT1 is more accurate since if I recall correctly there are also other international martial arts tournaments, if not general then at least for specific sports. The article looks better now, but I was wondering if a separate article could be written for the WMAM as a whole since a large chunk of the article (i.e. the first section) discusses the tournament as a whole more than this specific 2019 iteration. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:19, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: Ok. I have crossed out ALT2 now. Do you think the article on the world martial arts masterships in general would be part of the review? It is because as I have several (~3) articles to create on my to do list (If creating said article would be part of the review, I could create it first) Taewangkorea (talk) 04:42, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
It's an optional step and the nomination can still pass without it being done, I just found it strange that almost half of the article seems to discuss the tournament's history as a whole instead of just the 2019 event. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:43, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: I will try to create such an article in the future after completing my current drafts I am writing. Is there any concerns with the requirements for DYK that you see? Taewangkorea (talk) 04:51, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: i.e. Do you think it is good to go for DYK? Taewangkorea (talk) 05:46, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ 심규석 (2019-08-30). "'지구촌 무술 축제' 충주 세계무예마스터십 '팡파르'". 연합뉴스 (in Korean). Retrieved 2019-09-02.
  2. ^ 심규석 (2019-07-25). "[충주 세계무예마스터십] ②역대 최대 규모 '무술 올림픽' (The Chungju World Martial Arts Masterships - the largest 'martial arts olympics' to date". 연합뉴스 (in Korean). Retrieved 2019-09-18.
  3. ^ 전창해 (2019-08-29). "'무림 지존들의 향연'…충주 세계무예마스터십 내일 팡파르". 연합뉴스 (in Korean). Retrieved 2019-09-19.

Articles created/expanded on September 3

Hans Riemer (Austrian politician)

  • ... that the Austrian politician Hans Riemer wrote a brochure Ewiges Wien (Eternal Vienna) in 1945 when he was the city's press secretary? Source: several
  • ALT1: ... that the Austrian politician Hans Riemer went from a prisoner of war in 1945 to the of the presidency of the Bundesrat in 1955?
Grave of Hans Riemer
Grave of Hans Riemer

Created by Evrik (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 12:34, 8 September 2019 (UTC).

  • comment: I formatted the image but find ALT2 not informative, - something he shares with hundreds of others. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:41, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment: I don't think ALT0 and ALT2 are interesting enough, to be frank. From reading the article, I think a hook about Riemer leading the photography and film department at the Socialist Education Center might be more interesting. SounderBruce 04:51, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Article is new enough, long enough, and neutral. As noted above, ALT0 and ALT2 are quite dull, so I'm only reviewing ALT1, which is interesting. But I'm unable to verify from the cited source (parlament.gv.at) that he was a POW in 1945. Moreover, the article heavily relies on that source, but much of the info fails verification via Google translation, for example, that he was the son of a leatherworker. -Zanhe (talk) 05:07, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi Zanhe and Gerda Arendt: I have added another reference which does say he was imprisoned for a short time by the Americans in 1945. It is a wiki website, but published by the Vienna city and state archives and city library, so it should be reliable and acceptable. The webpage lists the sources for the info. Other citations to this source could be added (though not for the statement that his father was a leatherworker, it just he was says a craftsman). RebeccaGreen (talk) 13:44, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Madara Uchiha

  • ... that the article Madara Uchiha was created on 3rd September, 2019 through Article for Creation.

Created by AbhiMukh97 (talk). Self-nominated at 08:01, 6 September 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Firstly, the hook proposed is unsuitable as it does not give an interesting fact about the subject. Secondly, there is currently a cleanup template in the article, which will need to be resolved before this can be approved for DYK. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:01, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
I revised the reception a bit and thought about this:
  • Did you know that while Madara Uchiha is one of the final antagonists of Naruto he does not make his first appearance until the final arc?
  • Did you know that Madara Uchiha has been impersonated by Obito Uchiha for most of his appearances in Naruto?
  • ... that Madara Uchiha's surprising debut in the series confused his own English voice actor Neil Kaplan about how should he handle his characterization? "GAMRs Ep 11 Extras - Optimoose Kaplan: Pre-show banter". Gamr. Retrieved August 31, 2019.

@Narutolovehinata5:

The hook still sounds a bit niche and might not appeal so much to those unfamiliar with anime. Maybe something else could be proposed here? Possible suggestions could include how he was created as part of an effort to create characters that could "resolve conflicts as opposed to killing each other", or maybe something about the reception he received? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:37, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Some of the facts that I found interesting about Madara are:

  • He lived around 120 years before his official death in the manga.
  • Despite being a sage mode user, he is not listed as one in the databooks.
  • While reviving Madara, Kishimoto himself became confused about the difference between impure world reincarnation and Rinne-rebirth.
  • Edo Madara is introduced in series to give Naruto, someone to beat.
  • According to Mangaka Kishimoto, Madara is a character without weakness.

AbhiMukh97(Speak)(Contribs) 02:09, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

All of these facts are in-universe facts, meaning they deal with the plot of Naruto. However, here at DYK, it is required that hooks about characters need to be about the real world, meaning that generally, hooks can't be about events that take place in the Naruto series. Perhaps Tintor2 can better explain it than I can, but none of those suggestions can be used I'm afraid. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:24, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

What about this:

  • Unlike other shonen manga, Naruto resolves conflicts as opposed to killing each other, setting their differences aside. Many of the Naruto fans complained about this. Edo Madara is introduced in series to give Naruto someone to beat.

AbhiMukh97(Speak)(Contribs) 02:35, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

@AbhiMukh97: That kinda works but it needs to be written from a perspective common readers who might not know the series. For example, "Madara Uchiha was introduced as a strong villain who could not settle his differeces with the main characters in contrast to previous antagonists?"Tintor2 (talk) 16:08, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

  • I would also suggest that a copyedit for the article be requested at WP:GOCE/R since right now the article is a bit hard to read for people who aren't familiar with Naruto. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:02, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
Sorry, my requests are busy with Kogami's and Dazai's article to make one for Madara.Tintor2 (talk) 20:05, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg I've requested that this be given a copyedit at WP:GOCE/R; the review should probably be put on hold until that is accomplished. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:51, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Space National Guard

Created by Chetsford (talk). Self-nominated at 04:16, 3 September 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is new enough and long enough. One paragraph is unsourced. I don't think that that op-ed can be interpreted as the proposed U.S. Space Force did not contain plans for a Space National Guard; also is this guy's opinion particularly noteworthy? - the US military is a big organization. Also not sold on the Defense Department promised further study of the matter. I think comitteed is a typo. Is source #7 talking about the Guard in general or only its Colorado part? I am not sure if I would interpret #8 as a "transfer". Didn't see any copyvio or plagiarism. Now about the hook - I kinda think that the first version is dependent on the "transfer" point I raised before. Beyond that it's a little more interesting than the ALT hook. Something is broken about the source link to the map. QPQ is OK. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:00, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Jo-Jo Eumerus - thank you very much for the review. I've made all these corrections but please let me know if I missed anything. To the question about Dunbar; I believe he's noteworthy as he's the commanding general of the entire Wisconsin National Guard. Chetsford (talk) 21:32, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Er, the "further thought" does not seem to refer to the comments by these senators, despite how it is implied in our article. I don't think the new source addresses the problem I have with "transfer" - "How would I present the bureaucratic, the operational piece in the bureaucracy into a new Space Command is, I would do it from those seven states," in the source is a bit difficult to understand - are you sure it can be read as "transfer"? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:00, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
  • We might have to agree to disagree, but I've removed the passage in question from the article in any case. Chetsford (talk) 14:49, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
  • OK, then. ALT1 is OK, the first hook is a touch more interesting but needs to be stated in the article. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:28, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 6

Erramatti Mangamma

  • ... that Erramatti Mangamma at 74 years of age became the oldest mother to give birth to twins?

Created/expanded by Abishe (talk). Self-nominated at 16:47, 9 September 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg This is an interesting article and subject, but there are some issues. Some copyediting is needed. Currently the article is 1011 characters (and with copyediting likely to fall), it must be a minimum of 1,500. The article is very stubby, only having a brief mention of the birth, and very little about the subject. The references are all Indian news websites, I'd expect something medically significant such as this ought to have greater coverage, both internationally and in more rigorous scholarship. Of the sources, one is "74-year-old Andhra woman delivers twin girls, may be the oldest ever to give birth" or that she is "possibly the oldest woman in the country to have attained motherhood", or that she is the "oldest living mother" - which introduces some ambiguity to the statement and indeed the subject's notability. No mention is made in the cited source of being the "oldest mother to give birth to twins" - though it can be logically implied if it is true that she is "the oldest ever to give birth" and that she gave birth to twins. That said, I'm not sure if the wording does support this, and even if it does, it ought to be explicit rather than implicit for the hook fact. The article is in date and QPQ does not appear necessary. No copyvio detected. Spokoyni (talk) 18:56, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

European Union (Withdrawal) (No. 2) Act 2019

Created by Thunderstorm008 (talk) and Sceptre (talk). Nominated by Sceptre (talk) at 13:32, 10 September 2019 (UTC).

  • QPQ done, meets requirements, no copyvio or close paraphrasing found. Hook is interesting (although, being a Brit, it's a little scary). Could we quantify Boris somehow to remove WP:SEAOFBLUE? Such as:
I take your SEAOFBLUE point. I've edited the hook to break up the sea slightly. Sceptre (talk) 20:45, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg works for me. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 21:36, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I think we will need to be very careful how we word this hook. The present hooks are inaccurate because he is not going to be sent to prison for stating that he refuses to comply with the act. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:57, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 7

Brett Toth

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 12:52, 8 September 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The article is new enough and long enough, but the hook fact isn't explicitly included in the article. The article states, "became the first person to represent West Point at the Senior Bowl", rather than the first Army Black Knights football player. I can't access the source (US news sites don't like the EU's GDPR) to confirm what is said there. With a small tweak to either the hook or the article though, this would be good to go. Harrias talk 08:43, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
  • @Harrias: Uninvolved editor from the US here: those are basically the same thing in this context, since "West Point" is often used to refer to Army. Raymie (tc) 19:37, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
  • @TonyTheTiger and Raymie: I am aware and comfortable with the West Point/army conflation, but it is specifically the claim that he was a Army Black Knights football player that is missing. Harrias talk 19:40, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
  • @Harrias: I added this as a source into the article. It states, "West Ashley High School product Brett Toth, a graduate of the United States Military Academy, received a waiver from the U.S. Army so that he can immediately begin his NFL career. ... Toth was the first Army player to play in the Senior Bowl after the 2018 season." Hopefully that resolves any lingering confusion. Raymie (tc) 19:45, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 8

Sulfur-breathing organisms

Created/expanded by Sm8900 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:53, 9 September 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Hi Sm8900, this article is currently below 500 characters of text length. The minimum for DYK is 1500. Happy to take another look if/when it is expanded, if you could ping me. Thanks - Dumelow (talk) 09:07, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
that sounds fine. I appreciate your help. thanks, To Dumelow:. Sm8900 (talk) 19:12, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
I will add that we already have an article on Sulfur-reducing bacteria, although the content of the nominated page is actually about Sulfate-reducing bacteria. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:22, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg The nomination is on hold until the merge proposal is settled. Graeme Bartlett, the Sulfate-reducing bacteria link redirects to Sulfate-reducing microorganisms—the article was moved back in 2017—so I'd like to suggest that you update the merge template, and also start a discussion on whichever talk page it links to, since a merge proposal is never going to go anywhere without a place to discuss it and come to consensus. BlueMoonset (talk) 08:08, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
The discussion was already here: Talk:Sulfur-breathing organisms#Merge. I have now added a header to make the discussion distinct from this transcluded DYKN. I have updated the merge template as you suggest. CatPath agreed and already transferred content. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:36, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 9

Jaakko Gauriloff

  • Comment: The source of the quotes is in Finnish and is here: Sievinen, Irja; Auer, Pentti (1 December 1963). "Maailman pohjoisin iskelmälaulaja Jaakko Kauriloff laulaa kuin Eino Grön" [The world's northernmost schlager singer Jaakko Kauriloff sings like Eino Grön]. Suosikki (in Finnish). pp. 8–9.

Created by Apanuugpak (talk) and Yupik (talk). Nominated by Yupik (talk) at 15:46, 16 September 2019 (UTC).

  • Comment: I'm working on getting a high-quality image of Gauriloff, but it might take a few weeks. -Yupik (talk) 15:57, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Article is new and long enough. It is neutral and cites sources inline except the last paragraph of "Early life" section, the fourth paragraph of "Carreer" section and the paragraph in the "Family" section, which are lacking citation. "Earwig's Copyvio Detector" reports no text similarities at all as the sources are in foreign language. The language parameter for Finnish needs to be added to the references #1, #6, $7 and #8. Reference #5 is not accessibale. The hook is well-formatted and is interesting. Its length is within limit, and its fact is cited inline in foreign language, for which I AGF. QPQ is missing, maybe the nominator has less than five DYK-credits. I will approve after the above mentioned issues are addressed. CeeGee 10:31, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Uwe Wolf (musicologist)

  • Reviewed: to come

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 20:07, 15 September 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I think the hook has potential, particularly the one on the Bach Digital mention. Maybe the hook could be rewritten to focus on that instead? It sounds kind of interesting that there is a digital archive for Bach being made, although the article doesn't really go into much detail as to what Wolf's involvement was (other than the website). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:20, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
  • When I wrote the hook I thought we had an article on the archive, but it's a rather poor redirect, so I think that without an article, I won't go further. The archive is the best source for Bach, just look at any better article o his works. Will you replace the redirect. I'm travelling, and my talk is flooded. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:45, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
QPQ still needed. How about a general interest hook: Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:30, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
  • ALT1 ... that musicologist Uwe Wolf can scientifically distinguish between notes written on the score of his Mass in B minor by Johann Sebastian Bach from those written by his son?
That sounds interesting, although it might be more accurate to say that he "conducted research" on distinguishing instead of saying that "he can distinguish". Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:33, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
Good idea, but everybody "can", using the same method. He "did" it. Links to the work and at least the son, please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:03, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Lilias Adie

Torryburn Bay, where Lilias Adie's remains were discovered.
Torryburn Bay, where Lilias Adie's remains were discovered.
  • ... that the philanthropist Andrew Carnegie had a walking stick made out of a piece of the coffin from Lilias Adie's grave – the only known grave for an accused witch in Scotland? [13]
    • ALT1:... that forensic artists at the University of Dundee digitally reconstructed the face of accused witch Lilias Adie from century-old photos of her skull? [14]

Created by Stinglehammer (talk). Self-nominated at 14:05, 10 September 2019 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol question.svg epicgenius (talk) 00:43, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Okay, will redraft problem parts and ping when it's ready for review again. Thanks.Stinglehammer (talk) 09:59, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 10

Khalili Collections

Moved to mainspace by MartinPoulter (talk). Self-nominated at 17:32, 17 September 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced. Images in article are freely licensed; why don't you nominate one of them for DYK?
  • I'm not sure how to determine that 1500 characters of this is not from the public domain source. Earwig's gives me a 98 percent copyvio; most of the text seems to be copied from that public domain source.
  • The hook fact about the size of the collection is verified and cited inline, but the fact about the five decades does not have an inline cite. I also added "citation needed" tags to several paragraphs and facts, per Rule D2. QPQ done. Yoninah (talk) 19:20, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Enea Scala

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 16:08, 10 September 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg ALT1's wording is rather confusing and seems to be focusing more on Otello than Scala himself. It has potential, but it needs to be rephrased to be suitable. ALT0 on the other hand is fairly niche and might not appeal to general readers. Can something else be said about him, like perhaps reviews of his performances or other personal information? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:17, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
I try to avoid reviews, because they can be biased. To be the first among five (!) tenors is something even the person not interested in opera should understand. It was news in a German tabloid, DYK, probably THE German tabloid? - Btw, Otello - Othello - is probably a character most people will associate with, love jealousy, murder of an innocent. (Let's not tell them that in this staging, she kills herself.) -Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:37, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
ALT2:... that the tenor Enea Scala has appeared in roles by Rossini, most recently Otello as the first of five tenors? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:39, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
I would suggest just re-ordering the words in ALT1, to say:
ALT1a:... that the tenor Enea Scala has appeared in roles by Rossini, most recently in the title role of Otello, an opera which requires at least five tenors?
To me, that makes it clear that he sang Otello, and that Rossini's Otello requires at least five tenors. I find "the first of five tenors" a bit confusing, as if five tenors sing one role. This alternative wording doesn't say he was the first of the five, but that he sang the title role, which is clearly the most important. Or you could say "which requires at least four other tenors", perhaps? RebeccaGreen (talk) 18:01, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
Fine. Title role should do. Some will remember the three tenors ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:42, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 11

Peter Palitzsch

Peter Palitzsch in 2004
Peter Palitzsch in 2004
ALT1: ... that Peter Palitzsch (pictured), a member of Brecht's Berliner Ensemble from the beginning, directed the world premiere of Der aufhaltsame Aufstieg des Arturo Ui (The Resistible Rise of Arturo Ui) at the Staatstheater Stuttgart? Source: several
  • Reviewed: to come

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 20:36, 18 September 2019 (UTC).

Ask Dr. Ruth

  • ... that a 2019 documentary film reflects on German-American sex therapist Ruth Westheimer's career? Source: Why you should watch... Ask Dr Ruth, an inspiring documentary about a sex therapist

Created by CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk). Self-nominated at 12:20, 11 September 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The full review is to follow, but for now I wonder if it might be appropriate to mention that Westheimer was a Holocaust survivor since the current hook feels rather pedestrian. Then again, the description "sex therapist" may be enough to raise interest (it sure caught my attention at least). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:28, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
@CAPTAIN MEDUSA: Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:17, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Hi, I'm familiar with Ask Dr. Ruth and wonder why the origin of the title isn't in the article? I'd like to suggest this alt:
  • ALT1a: ... that the 2019 film Ask Dr. Ruth features Holocaust survivor Ruth Westheimer reflecting on her career as a sex therapist? Yoninah (talk) 19:35, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Shinoridate

  • ... that Shinori Fort in Hokkaido was twice sacked by Ainu?
    Japanese language citation for hook (in the section headed 志苔館の沿革)

Created by Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk). Self-nominated at 17:25, 11 September 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is adequately sourced, the hook checks out from the source (both here and on the article), the article is new and long enough. The article appears to fully comply with policy and the hook is of decent length and quality. I did fix the minor issue of you having an extra row on a table. NoahTalk 02:28, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Symbol question.svg @Hurricane Noah: @Maculosae tegmine lyncis: unfortunately I've had to pull this one from the queue due to a possible lack of sourcing, following discussion at WP:ERRORS. The source appears to say the second event was a sacking by the Ainu but it's unclear whether the first sacking was they. Hopefully we can resolve this or come up with an alternative hook, then re-promote.  — Amakuru (talk) 19:01, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

  • I'm also wondering if Shinori Fort is the correct title because I can't find any verification of such a name. SL93 (talk) 19:12, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi, I’m not sure if I should respond here or on the main page errors (or hopefully otherwise..), so both: the 1457 event, as linked in the article, is Koshamain’s war, where the participating Ainu sacked ten of the twelve forts, also, the two refs by the map, with “fort” used in the English source, and the ten identified in the Japanese, including that of Shinori; as for the Ainu or just Ainu, Japanese doesn’t have articles, definite or otherwise, while quite a few Ainu appear to have been acting in unison, it wasn’t necessarily all etc, and having the in the hook in isolation makes the Ainu peoples sound a bit monolithic, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 21:40, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

PS Wiktionary:館, Japanese etymology 2, says tate/date is a fort or small castle, and the photo would seem to concur! Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 21:59, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 12

John Hancock (venereologist)

Created/expanded by Whispyhistory (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Whispyhistory (talk) at 07:26, 18 September 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline and either could be used (I have added ALT1a), the article is neutral and I detected no copyright or plagiarism issues. A QPQ needs to be done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:30, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

2019 British prorogation controversy

  • Reviewed: Jeannette Guyot
  • Comment: Another Brexit new article. The main hook might be dated come Tuesday, but even if prorogation is found lawful, it's interesting enough for a hook.

Created by Sceptre (talk). Self-nominated at 22:56, 12 September 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Date and length fine. I am striking ALT0 as the case is still ongoing and may be overruled. Also ALT1 is stricken for NPOV violations. I am more inclined to favour ALT3. QPQ done, no close paraphrasing. However @Sceptre: I would hold this until the Supreme Court make their decision, hence why I am not approving it at this time. When the Court has made their decision, I will pass it. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 06:19, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Ellen Lee Zhou

Zhou in 2018
Zhou in 2018
  • that San Francisco mayoral candidate Ellen Lee Zhou (pictured), an immigrant from Guangdong, China, wants to build a wall on the US–Mexico border? Source (that she's an immigrant): "Born in 1969, Zhou is the sixth in a family of seven children in Taishan, a city west of Hong Kong. Her mother was a peasant, and her father worked in Guangzhou, the provincial capital." (SFGate)
    Source (that she wants a Trump wall): "Once and future mayoral candidate Ellen Lee Zhou’s noontime City Hall pro-Trump, pro-wall rally — for the immigrants — was attended by a crowd of, say, four people which, at times, dipped to two and, at others, rose to six." (Mission Local)
  • Reviewed: Johannes Latuharhary
  • Comment: Sorry guys, no ALT1. It's my hook or nothing, I can't think of anything else, and think my hook is strong.

Created by Psiĥedelisto (talk). Self-nominated at 08:25, 12 September 2019 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg This needs to survive and AfD first. I will resume he review if there's anything left to review when the AfD dust settles. Also, the thumb used here is not present in the mage page, nor do I see a commons category allowing access to this in the article (also that image may not be free, started a discussion on Commonsresolved, image is free). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:42, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

The image is 100% free and another editor vandalized my article, which you decided to AfD before even reverting. I've responded both on AfD and Commons and look forward to a prompt resolution. Psiĥedelisto (talk) 04:16, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
Confirmed. I will also note that there is an edit war there between the SPA and the creator (Psiĥedelisto), through I expect the SPA will just get blocked soon for edit warring, solving this particular problem before the AfD finishes. FYI if the AfD is finished without deletion, I expect this article will pass for DYK; we will see how it looks, if at all, when that happens. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:49, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
A single revert does not an edit war make. Psiĥedelisto (talk) 08:13, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Uthman ibn Abi al-Ula, Volunteers of the Faith

  • ... that after leading a failed rebellion in his native Morocco, Uthman ibn Abi al-Ula led the Volunteers of the Faith in Granada and became a major political figure at court? For Uthman leading a failed rebellion, see #Rebellion in northern Morocco. for becoming leader of the "Volunteers of the Faith" and a major political figure, see #Overthrow of Nasr and defeat of the Castilian invasion and onwards
  • Reviewed: TBD

Created/expanded by HaEr48 (talk) and Cplakidas (talk). Nominated by HaEr48 (talk) at 12:34, 19 September 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg These two articles are new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline, the articles are neutral and I detected no copyright or plagiarism issues. @HaEr48: Two QPQs need to be done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:44, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 13

Piano Concerto (Clara Schumann)

Clara Wieck at age 15
Clara Wieck at age 15
  • Reviewed: to come

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 14:12, 19 September 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Going through all the criteria, this DYK nom is good to go on the Article (New, long enough, and within policy) and the Hook (Format and content) criteria. However, the QPQ criteria still needs to be addressed. Image is good too. Soulbust (talk) 08:34, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
    Thank you, I reviewed now Template:Did you know nominations/Marie Dacke. The article may grow a bit once I get home, please keep watching ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:55, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Susan L. Mann

  • ... that American historian Susan L. Mann won the Fairbank Prize for exploring the roles of elite women and same-sex social relationships in Chinese history? Source: "Both were path-breaking interventions, the first by recognizing the influential role of elite Chinese women, the second by exploring the importance of same-sex social environments for elite Chinese women and men"
  • Reviewed: Valeriya Kirpichenko (third of three QPQs)
  • Comment: moved to main space on 13 September.

Created by CWH (talk). Nominated by Zanhe (talk) at 04:29, 16 September 2019 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg feminist (talk) 09:42, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

The Ten Thousand Things (2014 novel)

  • ... that the novel The Ten Thousand Things, earlier rejected by forty-four publishers, won the Walter Scott Prize? Source: "Author's book rejected 44 TIMES – but he wins £25,000 prize after it's finally published)

Moved to mainspace by Dharmadhyaksha (talk). Self-nominated at 12:15, 13 September 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Dharmadhyaksha Long enough, moved to mainspace recently enough. Fact has been verified from the hook, is short enough, and is broadly interesting. No copyvio, and article is well cited. QPQ done. Just need a citation directly after the sentence in the article stating it won the Walter Scott Prize. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Enwebb (talkcontribs) 14:28, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
The article is like 500 words and more than half the references say it won the prize. But never mind, i have added the reference again multiple times! §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 03:05, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
@Enwebb: Any more comments? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 06:29, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 14

Halloween darter

  • ... that the Halloween darter, a vulnerable species, was first described in 2008?
    • ALT1:... that ...?
  • Reviewed: Rockaways' Playland
  • Comment: I started expanding this article as a collaboration but started too soon. I am nominating it as a place holder, pending its further expansion, with a view to its running at Halloween. A better hook should materialise.

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 05:59, 21 September 2019 (UTC).

Girl on the Third Floor

  • ... that the horror film Girl on the Third Floor is an "intriguing spin at toxic masculinity"? Source: "What do you get when you cross an ex-wrestler with a dilapidated house that might be alive? You get an intriguing horror spin at toxic masculinity" ([20])
    • ALT1: ... that the horror film Girl on the Third Floor is all about a bad man paying for his behavior? Source: "It’s all about a bad man paying for his behavior and, thusly, the actions that his misogynistic forbearers committed decades ago, and when that bad man is played by Phil Brooks, it becomes infinitely more interesting." ([21])

5x expanded by Jack Sebastian (talk). Self-nominated at 05:45, 14 September 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @Jack Sebastian: I've been scrolling past these hooks for a bit now and they've never really sat with me. Even though they come from reviews of the film, I almost think ALT0 needs quotation marks around "intriguing spin at toxic masculinity" to not sound promotional. ALT1, to be quite honest, is not very interesting at all. The article is a new enough and long enough redirect conversion. There are some places that might need inline citations; though it's kind of hard to cite the plot, the festivals section has no citations at all. I'd like to see some citations in those areas and maybe those quotation marks on the hook. You have fewer than five credits, so you are QPQ-exempt. I'm also going to float an ALT2: Raymie (tc) 20:06, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
ALT2: ... that director/screenwriter Travis Stevens paused renovations on his home to film Girl on the Third Floor?Source: "...Stevens and his team paused the actual renovation of the house to spin their fictionalized version."(https://bostonhassle.com/buff-review-girl-on-the-third-floor-2019-dir-travis-stevens/ 3])
I've added quotation marks to the comment in ALT0 about toxic masculinity, but ALT2 is pretty nifty, too; I've added how Stevens was also the screenwriter, further emphasizing that the story was about the house he was renovating in the first place.
As well, your suggestions about the direction further expansion should take are good ones. I can't really expand on the plot until the film releases (as per COPYVIO), but I will definitely keep working on this, as more reviews come into play after its general release. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 20:43, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Another reviewer will be needed for the new ALT2 (and I don't mind the addition to it), but I do think the citations for the festivals it appeared at are something that can and should be done now. Raymie (tc) 21:09, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
Raymie, Source and link now added to ALT2. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 01:38, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Signal Corps Band

  • Reviewed: Forthcoming

Created by Chetsford (talk). Self-nominated at 04:22, 14 September 2019 (UTC).

QPQ: ????
Overall: Symbol question.svg Looks good, just waiting for qpq. Zerach (talk) 18:24, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 15

Jane Eskind

  • ... that Jane Eskind was the first woman to win a statewide election in Tennessee? Boucher, Dave; Tamburin, Adam (August 6, 2016). "Jane Eskind, Tennessee trailblazer and Louisville native, dead at 83". Louisville Courier-Journal. Retrieved September 15, 2019.

Created by Muboshgu (talk). Self-nominated at 02:16, 16 September 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Hi Muboshgu, review follows: article created 15 September; article exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources; hook fact is interesting, mentioned within article, cited to a reliable source and checks out at source; there's a couple of relatively minor issues with close paraphrasing:
  • "In 1994, Eskind became the first woman to chair the Tennessee Democratic Party" is directly taken from the Associated press article
  • Likewise "the first woman to win a statewide election in Tennessee" could be rephrased; same source
Once they are sorted and a QPQ added this one should be good to go - Dumelow (talk) 15:43, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
  • @Dumelow:, QPQ provided, close paraphrasing resolved. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:07, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

New York City Inferno

Created by Morgan695 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:18, 15 September 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The full review is to follow, though right now I have to note Morgan695 that the cast section is completely unreferenced. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:42, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Do cast sections typically need to be cited? I thought the source was assumed to be the source material itself, much like how Plot sections don't require citations. Morgan695 (talk) 05:18, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
From what I recall, Plot sections do not need to be cited, but cast sections generally do, especially if they include more minor roles. I could be misremembering things though and I'm open to a second opinion here. It's also partly because the DYK rules usually require at least one citation per paragraph (apart from plot sections, where citations are optional unless hook facts are mentioned there). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:54, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
From a cursory look at some featured film articles, it appears that if the casting information includes additional information about the role (casting notes, etc) then the material is cited, but simply stating that an actor portrayed a given character does not require a citation (see: 300 (film), Alien vs. Predator (film), Greed (1924 film), Pride & Prejudice (2005 film), and so on) Morgan695 (talk) 16:26, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: Just wanted to confirm whether your review was still ongoing, or if this should be redirected to a different editor. Morgan695 (talk) 00:00, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
It's still ongoing, I had been waiting for other responses to the cast sourcing part. I'll finish the rest sometime today. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:02, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Symbol question.svg The article is new enough, long enough, neutral, and stable. Both hook facts are interesting, cited inline to French sources that are accepted in good faith (although a machine translation seems to confirm the information), and a QPQ has been provided. Either hook can be used, but I think the second one is slightly more eyecatching. A third possible option could be to propose a hook based on how the film has been described as "unclassifiable", though this is up to you. Just waiting for a second opinion from another editor on if the cast section needs to be sourced, and once that is resolved this will be good to go. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:49, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Women's Defence Relief Corps

  • ... that the Women's Defence Relief Corps trained British women to fight during the First World War? "The Women's Defence Relief Corps organised a semi-military section of women trained in drills, marching, scouting and the use of arms" (p293)
  • Reviewed: to follow

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 07:59, 15 September 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article was moved to mainspace within the last seven days, is over the required prose count and has no copyvio concerns. Hook is attributed to a reliable source, although I'm unable to view it so I'll AGF there. The quote would appear to support the hook though. Just waiting on a QPQ review for this. Kosack (talk) 20:16, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on September 16

Venezuelan cinema in the 1890s

The dentist operates in an 1897 short film
The dentist operates in an 1897 short film

Created by Kingsif (talk). Self-nominated at 08:46, 16 September 2019 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on September 17

WAMV (Illinois)

  • ... that Harry Caray called his first Major League Baseball game, as well as hockey and basketball contests, on radio station WTMV in the St. Louis area? Baseball source; hockey and basketball mentioned in ads cited in the article
    • ALT1:... that despite newspaper articles and interviews to the contrary, new ownership changed the format of WAMV radio in 1961, upsetting civic leaders in East St. Louis? Source

Created by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 21:15, 18 September 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg There are a few issues that need to be fixed before this is ready for DYK. First, multiple paragraphs end without a citation, which is concerning from a verifiability perspective. In addition, I wouldn't consider either of the hooks fully verified in the article. The bit in the main hook about Caray calling hockey and basketball games isn't cited in the article. It's going to be hard to cite the fact that he called "other events" with just ads for single games in hockey and basketball; you could just drop that bit and say that Caray called hockey and basketball for WTMV. For ALT1, the article doesn't say much about "newspaper articles and interviews"; it just mentions one single newspaper story, as does the source. Also, I don't see a mention of the mayor or Chamber of Commerce in that source article; it just says civic leaders (like the hook), so I don't know where that comes from in the article. So those items need work. On the positive side, the article is well-referenced with reliable sources aside from the couple end-of-paragraph areas, the hooks meet formatting guidelines and the QPQ review is done. Spot-checks of refs 2, 18, and 20 showed no issues. Giants2008 (Talk) 01:52, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • @Giants2008: I've added a couple more citations (one of which should have been there from the start—the one that starts "Eastsiders" which should abate the ALT1 concerns) and improved in the areas you highlighted. (I added a second basketball citation and an ad for a wrestling broadcast.) Take a look now. Raymie (tc) 02:40, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Lisa Gordon-Hagerty

Lisa E. Gordon-Hagerty
Lisa E. Gordon-Hagerty
  • ... that U.S. National Nuclear Security Administration director Lisa Gordon-Hagerty (pictured) once said, "I have more important things to do than advise Nicole Kidman"?
    Source: "When Lisa Gordon Hagerty, MPH ’86, learned that she was one of the real-life models for the role of a White House counter-terrorism director in the 1997 thriller The Peacemaker, she was underwhelmed. It didn’t even matter that Nicole Kidman was playing the role. “I have more important things to do than advise Nicole Kidman,” Gordon-Hagerty laughs." [22]
  • Reviewed: pending

Created by Antony-22 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:19, 18 September 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Nominated within seven days of creation. Article is neutral, meets the length guidelines and reliably sourced. It has a low chance of being a copyright violation and there is no close paraphrasing. Hooks is short, fascinating, reliably sourced and neutral. Image is appropriately licensed. Just awaiting a QPQ review from the nominator; there is also a date format error in the article that needs to be corrected. MWright96 (talk) 13:43, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 18

Psychoda alternata

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 06:23, 23 September 2019 (UTC).

Ye Xuanping

  • ... that under the governorship of Ye Xuanping, Guangdong grew economically prosperous and increased its independence from Beijing, earning him the nickname "Emperor of the South"? Source: The Labors of Sisyphus: Economic Development of Communist China p. 142

5x expanded by Zanhe (talk). Self-nominated at 04:53, 23 September 2019 (UTC).

Jack Hadley

Hadley gives a tour at the Jack Hadley Black History Museum
Hadley gives a tour at the Jack Hadley Black History Museum
  • ... that Jack Hadley (pictured) founded his own Black History Museum in Thomasville, Georgia? "Winter is the busiest time of year at a black history museum here named after its founder -- a city native and retired Airman, who remains the driving force behind the collection of more than 5,000 items, most of them acquired locally."
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk). Self-nominated at 13:02, 19 September 2019 (UTC).

No objection. Hopefully someone will close the RM in a week. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:22, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

KOJC

  • ... that community radio station KOJC received a donation as a result of a settlement involving minority contracting practices at the airport in Cedar Rapids, Iowa? Source
    • ALT1:... that a contributing factor to the demise of Black radio station KOJC in Cedar Rapids was an internal struggle among its board of directors? Page 5

Created by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 05:38, 19 September 2019 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on September 19

Tom Farquharson

  • Reviewed: WNWK
  • Comment: The first two sources use "rumoured" but the third includes an eyewitness account. There is another eyewitness account in the article from an offline source too if needs be.

Improved to Good Article status by Kosack (talk). Self-nominated at 15:47, 19 September 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article improved to GA status, nominated for DYK in time and within policy. Hook is quite interesting and supported by multiple secondary sources. @Kosack: Just need a QPQ review now. Dee03 02:48, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
  • @Dee03: Thanks for the review, added in my QPQ for this one now. Kosack (talk) 14:01, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Durio graveolens

Sketch of fruit and leaves of Durio graveolens from Odoardo Beccari's 1890 book Malesia
Sketch of fruit and leaves of Durio graveolens from Odoardo Beccari's 1890 book Malesia
  • ... that despite a name meaning 'strong smelling durian', the scent of Durio graveolens (illustrated) is said to be mild? Lim, Tong Kwee; Luders, L. (July 1997). Boosting Durian Productivity (PDF). RIRDC Project DNT - 13A. Barton, ACT: Rural Industries Research Development Corporation (RIRDC). ISBN 9780724530151. ISSN 1440-6845. OCLC 38412745. Retrieved 10 November 2017.Nyffeler, Reto; Baum, David A. (2001). "Systematics and character evolution in Durio s. lat. (Malvaceae/Helicteroideae/Durioneae or Bombacaceae-Durioneae)". Organisms Diversity & Evolution. 1 (3): 165–178. doi:10.1078/1439-6092-00015. ISSN 1439-6092. OCLC 199110722.Kostermans, André Joseph Guillaume Henri (December 1958). Dilmy, A.; Van Steens, C. G. G. J. (eds.). "The Genus Durio Adans. (Bombac.)" (PDF). Reinwardtia. 4 (3): 91–95. doi:10.14203/reinwardtia.v4i3.1008 (inactive 2019-09-12). ISSN 2337-8824. OCLC 4142407. Retrieved 10 November 2017.Gasik, Lindsay (May 2013). "Durio graveolens". Year of the Durian. yearofthedurian.com. Retrieved 4 November 2017.
    • ALT1:... that Durio graveolens (illustrated) is the most popular species of durian in Brunei? Sivapalan, A.; Metussin, Rosidah; Harndan, Fuziah; Zain, Rokiah Mohd (December 1998). "Fungi associated with postharvest fruit rots of Durio graveolens and D. kutejensis in Brunei Darussalam". Australasian Plant Pathology. 27 (4): 274–277. doi:10.1071/AP98033. ISSN 1448-6032. OCLC 204773204.

Improved to Good Article status by NessieVL (talk). Self-nominated at 16:53, 19 September 2019 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on September 20

WVSP (North Carolina), WRQM

  • ... that public radio stations WVSP and WRQM in Rocky Mount, North Carolina, suffered from weak listener support and fundraising shortfalls? For WVSP: [24], [25], [26]. WRQM: [27], [28], [29]

Created by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 03:53, 21 September 2019 (UTC).

  • I'm not sure if I'm going to review this nomination, so in the meantime I'd just like to leave a comment. Right now the current hook sounds really niche and not really eye-catchy, and the description of "weak listener support and fundraising" could easily apply to many radio stations around the world. If anything, mentioning about the circumstances of how and why they were struggling would be a better option. Another possibility, though this would likely mean a separate hook for WVSP without mentioning WRQM, could be a hook about how WVSP's first studio was located in a former doctor's office. The options are up to you, of course. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:04, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Merryll Saylan

Jelly Donut (1979)
Jelly Donut (1979)

Created by Soulbust (talk). Self-nominated at 08:36, 20 September 2019 (UTC).

  • I'm fine with this DYK nom being accepted either with or without the image. Soulbust (talk) 08:37, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg Interesting life on good sources, such as Smithsonian. I had to look up woodturning, so prefer ALT1 by far. No way - not even for April Fool's - to get away with a pipe from jelly donut to a woman's biography (but I smiled). IF you want to pursue the original, please add at least her name, and better tell us where the Mint Museum is, with the short name. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:21, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

63rd Street Tunnel

  • ... that the 63rd Street Tunnel's upper level took 20 years to open, while the lower level is still under construction? Source: NY Times 1969 (start of construction), NY Times 1989 (completion), NY1 2017 (laying track in lower level)
    • ALT1:... that the 63rd Street Tunnel's upper level opened 20 years after its construction started, while the lower level is still under construction? Source: Same as above
    • ALT2:... that unlike other underwater subway tunnels in New York City, the 63rd Street Tunnel was prefabricated and sunk into trenches in the river bed? Source: NY Times 2005
  • Reviewed: QPQ pending

Improved to Good Article status by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 00:26, 20 September 2019 (UTC).

QPQ: Red XN - ?
Overall: Symbol question.svg All good to go once QPQ is done. Ping me when it is, and I'll pass. Ergo Sum 05:06, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 21

Alois Ickstadt

  • Reviewed: to come
  • Comment: Today is his birthday ;)

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 21:38, 22 September 2019 (UTC).

Barbecue spaghetti

Memphis-style barbecue spaghetti
Memphis-style barbecue spaghetti
  • ... that John Shelton Reed wrote that "Barbecue spaghetti is to spaghetti Bolognese as Cincinnati chili is to the Tex-Mex variety"? Source: https://books.google.com/books?id=3ck3CwAAQBAJ&pg=PT34&dq=barbecue+spaghetti&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj4rP-1wsbkAhVDhq0KHdfBCVYQ6AEwAXoECAMQAg#v=onepage&q=barbecue%20spaghetti&f=false

Created by Valereee (talk). Self-nominated at 16:44, 21 September 2019 (UTC).

✔️New enough, ✔️Long enough, ✔️Within policy: is neutral, in-line cited, and 0.0% copyvio on Earwig, ✔️Hook is formatted well and less than 200 characters, ✔️ Hook cited in template above, ✔️ Citation works, ✔️Hook interesting to broad audience, ✔️Hook is neutral, ✔️QPQ done, ✔️No image issues. Thus, ✔️Looks good to go to me! Futurist110 (talk) 02:46, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
Adding a (pictured) would be problematical for the hook as written. Suggest a slight tweak:
ALT0a: ... that John Shelton Reed wrote that barbecue spaghetti (pictured) "is to spaghetti Bolognese as Cincinnati chili is to the Tex-Mex variety"?
(Also note, Futurist110: to complete the review, a tick such as {{subst:DYKtick}} is required.) MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 08:50, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
striking ALT0 in favor or ALT0a --valereee (talk) 11:41, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Sheila Heaney

  • ... that Sheila Heaney, director of the Women's Royal Army Corps, visited the United States in 1972 to study how women were being integrated into the US Army? "In 1972 she visited the USA, where she studied the move towards the integration of servicewomen in the regular army and the campaign for equality in the armed forces." Oxford Dictionary of National Biography
    • ALT1:... that Sheila Heaney implemented changes to allow women in the British Army to choose their branch of service? "It was largely as a result of her efforts that women were given the chance to fulfil their potential in their chosen arm or service of the army and so achieve greater career opportunities." Oxford Dictionary of National Biography
  • Reviewed: to follow

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 11:59, 21 September 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @Dumelow: New enough and long enough. I did change "chose" to "choose" in the hook and article; let me know if this is a British English thing (it looks odd to me). I can't see the Dictionary of National Biography so I must AGF on those. This will be an AGF tick when QPQ is supplied. Raymie (tc) 04:58, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 22

KNGN

  • ... that a snake chased a mouse into the transmitter of Nebraska radio station KWRV in 1962, knocking it off the air for two hours? Source

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 05:01, 23 September 2019 (UTC).

WBCE

  • ... that two years after going on air, WBCE radio switched from country to gospel music because too many stations in western Kentucky had country formats? Source

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 03:56, 23 September 2019 (UTC).

Rāhula

  • ... that Rāhula, the son of the Buddha, threw a handful of sand in the air every morning, and made the wish that good teachers gave him counsel as much as that sand? Source: "Rāhula himself was eager to receive instruction from the Buddha and his teachers and would rise early in the morning and take a handful of sand, saying: "May I have today as many words of counsel from my teachers as there are here grains of sand!" (Malalasekera 1960)
    • ALT1:... that a discourse given by the Buddha to his one and only son became one of the seven Buddhist texts recommended for study in the inscriptions of the Emperor Aśoka? Source: "The Ambalatthika-Rāhulovāda Sutta is among the portions of scripture mentioned in the Bhābrā Edict of Asoka as being essentially worthy of study by all monks"(Malalasekera 1960); "Asoka's contact with the Buddhist Sangha no doubt gave him some knowledge of Buddhist texts. In order to help the Buddhist monks and the lay disciples he recommended several Buddhist texts for the purpose of their constant study, for their daily practices and for the development of Buddhism. The Bhabru or Bairiit Edict says: ... (vii) The sermon to Rahula beginning with the Sermon on Falsehood as delivered by the Lord Buddha ..." (Hazzra 1995, p.38.)
  • Reviewed: pending

Improved to Good Article status by Farang Rak Tham (talk) and Santhapriya (talk). Nominated by Farang Rak Tham (talk) at 21:45, 22 September 2019 (UTC).

Church of the Gesú (Philadelphia)

  • ... that the Church of the Gesú in Philadelphia may once have held the largest number of relics of any church in the United States? Source: "The Gesú may have once held the nation's largest collection of relics." (Guide to the Church of the Gesú, pp. 8–9)

Created by Ergo Sum (talk). Self-nominated at 05:08, 22 September 2019 (UTC).

  • I'll review this in a bit.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 22:31, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Ergo Sum, can you tell me a bit about the notability of the subject matter? Thanks.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 22:54, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Never mind, I found a reliable source confirming the subject's notability.[30] Probably more out there. Will continue review tomorrow.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 23:06, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

South Beach–Franklin Delano Roosevelt Boardwalk

  • Reviewed: QPQ pending

5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 01:11, 22 September 2019 (UTC).

Jessie Daniel Ames

  • ... that Texas suffragist Jessie Daniel Ames founded the Association of Southern Women for the Prevention of Lynching in 1930 which appealed directly to white southern women to stop lynching? Source: "In 1930, Ames, with the CIC's financial help, founded the Association of Southern Women for the Prevention of Lynching (ASWPL) with headquarters in Atlanta. The organization excluded African American women and appealed directly to white southern women to stop lynching." ([Ruthe Winegarten, Black Texas Women: 150 Years of Trial and Triumph, Austin: University of Texas Press, 1995])
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

5x expanded by ZoyaBoris (talk). Self-nominated at 04:16, 23 September 2019 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on September 23

Rambha Gandhi

  • ... that Gujarati writer Rambha Gandhi was a member of the Central Board of Film Certification of India? Source: "Jani, R. U. (1994). "ગાંધી, રંભાબહેન મનમોહન". In Thaker, Dhirubhai (ed.). Gujarati Vishwakosh (in Gujarati). VI (1st ed.). Ahmedabad: Gujarati Vishwakosh Trust. p. 266. OCLC 165216593.
  • Reviewed: pending

Created by Nizil Shah (talk). Self-nominated at 07:47, 23 September 2019 (UTC).

The VelociPastor

Created by SL93 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:21, 23 September 2019 (UTC).

Heather Olmstead

  • ... that in 2018, Brigham Young University volleyball coach Heather Olmstead held the highest winning percentage of any women's volleyball coach in NCAA Division I history? Gneiting, Olmstead headed to Japan for USA Volleyball
    • ALT1:... that volleyball coach Heather Olmstead was the first defensive specialist in Big West Conference history to be named first-team all-league? Olmstead Named Assistant Coach On Volleyball Staff
    • ALT2:... that in 2003, volleyball player Heather Olmstead was the only Libero draft-eligible out of 109 athletes? Heather Olmstead Eligible For 2003 USPV Draft
  • Reviewed: Pending

Created by HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:24, 23 September 2019 (UTC).

Special occasion holding area

The holding area has moved to its new location at the bottom of the Approved page. Please only place approved templates there; do not place them below.

Do not nominate articles in this section—nominate all articles in the nominations section above, under the date on which the article was created or moved to mainspace, or the expansion began; indicate in the nomination any request for a specially timed appearance on the main page.
Note: Articles intended to be held for special occasion dates should be nominated within seven days of creation, start of expansion, or promotion to Good Article status. The nomination should be made between at least one week prior to the occasion date, to allow time for reviews and promotions through the prep and queue sets, but not more than six weeks in advance. The proposed occasion must be deemed sufficiently special by reviewers. The timeline limitations, including the six week maximum, may be waived by consensus, if a request is made at WT:DYK, but requests are not always successful. Discussion clarifying the hold criteria can be found here: [31]; discussion setting the six week limit can be found here: [32].
April Fools' Day hooks are exempted from the timeline limit; see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.
Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Did_you_know&oldid=917312131"
This content was retrieved from Wikipedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know
This page is based on the copyrighted Wikipedia article "Template talk:Did you know"; it is used under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License (CC-BY-SA). You may redistribute it, verbatim or modified, providing that you comply with the terms of the CC-BY-SA