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January 18

Changing Pacific Sun Newspaper Image

Hi, I've been assigned by my work Pacific Sun newspaper to update our Wikipedia listing. I've been able to change everything except our photo. We made the photo and we are happy to make it available to use on the 4 agreements by waiving our copyright and making it common usage.

I'm getting an error saying I'm unable to upload the photo based on it not following wikimedia commons. The current photo is a cover we published years ago, the photo we would like to upload is here https://issuu.com/metrosiliconvalley/docs/pacific_sun_1851

This is the page we are having the issue on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Sun_(newspaper)

How can we proceed, we really would prefer a different photo in our infobox?

Thank you, Candace Simmons Legals/Classifieds/Digital Management PacificSun.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wenchimodel (talkcontribs) 00:36, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Candace, who owns the copyright to that photograph? We have strict rules about respecting copyright, and that picture would have to be licensed by the copyright holder to meet them. Also: we don't care what the subject of an article wants in the article about them, unless it is inaccurate. (Candace has been warned of our requirements for disclosure of paid editing.) --Orange Mike | Talk 02:47, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
I don't know the copyright status of the current image but for it to be replaced, a new image would have to be released with licensing that allows anyone (not just Wikipedia) to do anything with the image, and editors interested in the article would have to agree that the new image would be an improvement. The easiest release would be to put it on a website controlled by the Pacific Sun with a suitable copyright notice. See Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. Johnuniq (talk) 02:59, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
Actually the present image in the infobox of Pacific Sun (newspaper) is a non-free image. It could be replaced by uploading another non-free image to Wikipedia (not Commons), tagging it with {{Non-free newspaper image}}, and providing a non-free use rationale like on the present image, File:Pacific Sun front page.jpg. Changing the image name in the infobox to the new image would then make the present image an orphan; so it would be deleted. —teb728 t c 10:16, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
While a non-free "fair-use" image will work, a free image on commons is preferable because it allows the image to be used on other Wikipedias. As Johnuniq said, just put your image up on your own website with a CC-BY-SA copyright license notice, and Then put it on commons. A person in your position already knows, but for completeness: for you to grant this license, you must be the copyright holder, and that license allows anyone anywhere to use the image or modified versions of it in any way they want. This would include a competitor deciding to publish a newspaper with the same look and feel as yours (Other, non-copyright laws such as trademark, trade dress, misrepresentation still apply, but not copyright.) -Arch dude (talk) 16:01, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

How to add reference about a guinness world record without an official blog post?

I was on Hypixel and saw one of its Guinness world records says "non-primary sources needed". So I went to Guinness world record website, searched that record: that record does not have an official blog post on the site, although it can be searched in the "Record application search".

The problem is: if it had a blog post, then it can be directly linked, and it can be used in references. Record application search, however, requires login to view (although creation of accounts is free), and doesn't have a permalink. I wonder how, if at all possible, can this type of source be cited.

User670839245 (talk) 02:29, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi User670839245. Better here would be secondary sources such as press and magazine reports (not blogs). To give you a start I've added a sentence under "Accolades", referenced to existing Ref 9 (Variety), to verify that four Guinness World Records have been won, although not specifying them all: Bhunacat10 (talk), 10:21, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
@User670839245: A source does not need to be linkabl. In fact, it does not need to be on the Internet at all. Any source that is theoretically available to the general public in some way can be cited. Examples include books in libraries. The citation must contain sufficient information about the source that another Wikipedia editor can find the source. This is independent of whether or not the source is reliable. Your sources are primary, not secondary, so they cannot be used for anything except the fact that they exist (i.e., in this case, the fact that Guiness awarded the "world record") and other bare fats. Any inferences about these facts must be cited to reliable secondary sources. Note that blogs are not generally considered to be reliable secondary sources. -Arch dude (talk) 15:48, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Deletion of litterature

Hi, I used wrong and corrupt sources which was manipulated and created by the zionists. So i want everything created with the following usernames, deleted from wikipedia permanently

"MuhammadMudassir786" and "MohammadModassir786" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.232.243.179 (talk) 07:36, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Unfortunately, we don't know who you are, and we don't normally completely delete everything unless there are copyright or libel issues. I suggest that you log in with your accounts and correct any errors that you made, explaining why in the edit summaries. Dbfirs 07:42, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Rangeblock or Sockpuppet Report?

There's been vandalism across a few IP addresses to actors' Wikipedia pages with the exact same pattern of editing (changing the birthdates to January 1, 1 AD). Would it be reasonable to request a range block (if that's possible) since it's just a few accounts, or to open a sock puppet investigation though it's obvious that the IP addresses are used by the same person? Or, is there another approach I could take? Thanks, Rosalina2427 (talk to me) 08:52, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Rosalina2427 I should say this is one for the admins. Check whether the problem has already been dealt with and if not, assemble diffs and post at WP:AIV: Bhunacat10 (talk), 13:04, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
@Bhunacat10: After being blocked on that IP address, the editor resurfaced with another IP address on the same article with the same editing pattern. That IP address has been blocked as well for 31 hours; should I assemble a sock puppet report anyways to let admins know? I'm also requesting page protection. Thanks, Rosalina2427 (talk to me) 03:39, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
Update: I filed a sock puppet investigation; after some research it seems that the user has used nine IP addresses over the past month. Rosalina2427 (talk to me) 04:13, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Deleting a file in wikimedia

I have made an .svg file and uploaded it to commons.wikimedia.org. However, after I tried to use it I realized it does not look as I intended, so I wish to delete it. I do not see any way to do that, only the possibility to upload a new version. Can I delete it? Answer to my talk page is preferred. Carystus (talk) 19:17, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi Carystus! Unless you're an admin, you can't directly delete a file (if anyone could delete any page, that could have disastrous effects), but you can mark it for deletion. If you uploaded the file to Commons in the last 7 days, first make sure that it isn't used on any Wikimedia projects. If it's not, add the coding {{SD|G7}} to the top of it, which states that the author or uploader of the file has requested that it be deleted. An admin should soon come around to delete it. Hope this helps and let me know if you need me to explain further.--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 19:27, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
Also, I've replied here because it's more convenient for others to keep discussion in one place, but I'd be more than happy to copy my reply to your talk page if you would like.--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 19:34, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I have followed the advice. It is fine to answer here. I wonder, are there are any discussion groups or help as to how vector and bitmap illustrations are made and which format to choose? My problem was that the .svg I made (using LibreOffice Draw) unexpectedly displayed different when published on wikipedia compared to viewing it locally in Image Viewer, and still different when opened in Firefox. I would prefer to use plain Postscript, but I don't know if it is compatible with wikipedia markup. Carystus (talk) 20:33, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

"See also" links

I am being told by an editor (User:Calton) that I cannot place a "See also" link in an article unless some reliable source has explicitly drawn a connection between the topic of the linked article and the topic of the original article. I cannot imagine that to be the case, but I am asking here. The relevant discussion is here: Talk:Kidnapping of Jayme Closs#Joseph E. Duncan III. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:14, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

The presence of a reliable source that makes the connection is probably not necessary to place a link in the See also section (for the first time). However, once the basis for the placement has been questioned and challenged, as here, I would say that yes, unless the connection is truly obvious and the debate is clearly absurd, a reliable source making the connection should be required before restoring it, rather than relying purely on the opinion(s) of the editor placing the link and/or small number of other editors, since the placement is obviously not uncontroversial. General Ization Talk 21:24, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
So, how does your view comport with WP:SEEALSO then? Where are you getting this "new standard" from? Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:31, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
This is what I stated at that other Talk Page. The WP:SEEALSO policy specifically states, quote: The links in the "See also" section might be only indirectly related to the topic of the article because one purpose of "See also" links is to enable readers to explore tangentially related topics. If one topic is "indirectly related" and "tangential" to another topic, why on earth (and how on earth) could we expect reliable sources to "explicitly link them" (as User:Calton has suggested demanded)? That "standard" makes no sense at all. And I'd like to know where that "standard" came from. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:34, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
@Joseph A. Spadaro: This is a form of content dispute. Please discuss this on the article's talk page. I do not think the details of "guidelines" about "see also" are very useful here. Instead, look at WP:SYNTH, which is an expansion of a policy (WP:OR), not a guideline. If the other editor does not agree that there is a supportable linkage between the subjects, then the "see also" constitutes a synth. -Arch dude (talk) 23:18, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Article notability question....

I'm writing a new article on a sports phenomenon within a sport. It's received mainstream attention, but most sources also have opinion inserted in them. Is it OK to still write a topic on this? I'm new, so sorry for this. 162.200.70.94 (talk) 22:11, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Why don't you tell us the topic? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 22:20, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Kapu caste

Request to delete the below content in "" from Kapu caste page.

"From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 (Redirected from Ontari)

Jump to navigationJump to search "Ontari" redirects here. For the 2008 film, see Ontari (film)" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.114.16.162 (talk) 22:56, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

I have listed the redirect Ontari for discussion: see Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2019_January_18: Bhunacat10 (talk), 23:47, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
Hello IP user,
  • All pages on Wikipedia say "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia"
  • You got "(Redirected from Ontari)" only because you accessed Kapu through the Ontari redirect; it provides a way to get back to the redirect.
  • The ""Ontari" redirects here…" provide access to the film article for reader interested in Ontari as a film rather than a subclan.
Those lines are useful for some people and do no harm to others. —teb728 t c 01:29, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Notable enough...

Would you consider a sports phenomenon within a sport which has received mainstream coverage notable if most of the topic's sources have some opinion in them? I'd rather not disclose the topic at this moment. New user. 162.200.70.94 (talk) 23:18, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

I'm afraid that you're being so vague as to make it difficult to help you. Most scandals, for example, are phenomena within another, broader subject; and people certainly have opinions about scandals (or so-called scandals; see moral panic). Likewise, innovations of style, posture, technique and technology within a sport can draw very fierce opinions without thus not being notable.
Why not simply disclose the topic? It's not like you get paid for having an article here. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:33, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
Hey IP, you just asked the same thing two topics above. —teb728 t c 01:40, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Someone reverted my above topic back... As for the disclosing, I'm not getting paid, but I'd still not disclose the topic for unspecified reasons. 162.200.70.94 (talk) 03:20, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Carefully read the general notability guideline (WP:GNG) and make an written objective point-by-point analysis of the notability of your topic. If your sources are reliable, the opinions do not in general detract from the reliability of the sources. If you objective analysis is that the subject meets the guideline, then it deserves an article, unless in your editorial opinion it is better to cover it within some other article. -Arch dude (talk) 03:55, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

January 19

Page watchers

Is there a way to see which accounts are watching a certain page? JACKINTHEBOXTALK 08:53, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

No. Help:Watchlist#Privacy. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:16, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
OK thanks. JACKINTHEBOXTALK 01:35, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Seeing category by new items first

Hello, say I was looking at a category with a thousand things in it and then I came back a while later to look again but I wanted the newly added articles listed first so they weren't lost in the swamp... ~ R.T.G 09:41, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

@RTG: I only know a partial and cumbersome solution. You may want an alternative account with a blank watchlist for it. Place the category on your watchlist. Disable "Hide categorization of pages" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-watchlist or on the watchlist. The watchlist should now show additions and removals of pages in the category. It can go back up to 30 days. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:20, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
Funny enough I wanted to use it on another wiki where I've only about 2 or 3 other categories on the watchlist so I was able to filter it to categories. I didn't think it would list every change there only the latest.
Resolved
thanks. ~ R.T.G 11:11, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

India map in Marathi

Searching paithan on INDIA map produces result which cut Arunachal Pradesh and Jammu and Kashmir from India map.Please correct the map . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:222B:972D:BA3D:5F4D:C926:3E0 (talk) 10:12, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Talk:India/FAQ says: "The map shows the official (de jure) borders in undisputed territory and the de facto borders and all related claims where there's a dispute; it cannot exclusively present the official views of India, Pakistan, or China. See WP:NPOV." Note that the map at India#Subdivisions also shows the Indian color for an area claimed by Pakistan but controlled by India, so Wikipedia does not side with Pakistan in the conflict. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:28, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Help needed with user page

Besides being a mess, I'm getting the message " This page contains too many expensive parser function calls". Does any kind soul have the time to take a look? Thanks. Doug Weller talk 10:47, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

That's probably because you're quite new to this Wikipedia thing. Just give it a kick. (sorry, but I haven't any serious suggestions).  Velella  Velella Talk   11:08, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
Category:Pages with too many expensive parser function calls says, "As of 14 October 2010, expensive function calls are #ifexist, {{PAGESINCATEGORY}} and {{PAGESIZE}}. These pages should be edited to reduce the number of expensive calls." I understand the words but I couldn't tell you what it means. ~ R.T.G 11:16, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
Previewing User:Doug Weller gives me: "Warning: This page contains too many expensive parser function calls. It should have less than 500 calls, there are now 555 calls." See Category:Pages with too many expensive parser function calls and WP:EXPENSIVE. I guess the main issue here is too many total {{PAGESINCAT:...}} in the transcluded pages. There are only 15 in the source. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:25, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
@PrimeHunter: that makes sense even to me. I just have no idea what to fix. Unless maybe there's a better Admin dashboard? And would also appreciate it if someone could tidy up my userboxes, everytime I try I just make it worse. Thanks everyone else who responded, even if you couldn't helpo. Doug Weller talk 11:36, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
"Parser profiling data" at the bottom of a preview includes "Expensive parser function count". You can preview parts of the page to see where the high counts come from. {{dashboard}} alone gives 552 and the template page has the issue so it could be posted to the talk page. I guess processing stops somewhere on your user page when it only says 555 in total. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:50, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
If {{dashboard}} is removed then you only get 9 at Expensive parser function count. Some of the 15 {{PAGESINCAT:...}} in the source are conditional. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:00, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Dashboard, which is transcluded on {{Dashboard}} itself uses 455 of the function calls, explaining the issue. I'd say use {{Admin dashboard}}. Galobtter (pingó mió) 12:10, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Citing two article sources

Encyclopedia.com is a convenient site to read Encyclopaedia Judaica articles but I'd like to be able to cite references to a pdf edition of the EJ itself as well even though links can only be to EJ volumes rather than specific pages. Is it possible to include two references for article sources? Mcljlm (talk) 12:28, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

You should cite what you read. If you read both, you can cite both. The popular {{Citation}} template or Citation style 1 templates do not support this, so you would have to write your citations in a different way, or add some information after the end of the citation template but before the final </ref> tag. Jc3s5h (talk) 12:36, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Gemeente Hengelo ROBLOX

Gemeente Hengelo ROBLOX is opgericht door: DimitryYTNL// Mede Owner: Gillian Het is gebaseerd op Hengelo Overijssel met ongeveer 81.079 inwoners

De game is aangemaakt op 20 Oktober 2017. Het record aantal spelers is ongeveer: 25 Players, De creator aka Dimitry is ook een tijdje gestopt met Hengelo door problemen met de staff en veel ruzie De game kwam weer tevoorschijn in: Juli. een leuk feitje: De neef van Dimitry helpt mee met Hengelo hij is gestart in Februari Later in 2018 kwamen sommige Co Owners terug zoals: Dean200489,Yassinswagboy etc! Dean was al eerder bij Hengelo maar omdat iedereen boos werd is het niet door gegaan.. Hengelo gaat in Febrauri 2019 open! Het idee van dat is dat het moet lijken op de echte Hengelo!

Creator: DimitryYTNL,DarrylGames1234

Co Creators: Dean200489, baardmans1234 — Preceding unsigned comment added by DimitryYTNL (talkcontribs) 14:33, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Dit is een helpdesk voor het stellen van vragen en niet voor het plaatsen van de inhoud van een voorgesteld artikel. Dit is ook de Engelse Wikipedia en artikelen in het Nederlands zouden hier nooit goed zijn opgenomen. Ze zouden op de Dutch Wikipedia beloven of helemaal niet--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:19, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Violation Wiki policy

Please delete immediately this page. It violates Wiki policy!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Fine — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anna Budko (talkcontribs) 17:23, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

I reverted the last three edits by IPs, and Martin of Sheffield did the same. An administrator might delete the whole article or revdel the possible libel. Dbfirs 17:31, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
I see that Cullen328 has now improved the article, and protected it against further vandalism. If you have any further suggestions for improvement, please suggest them on the talk page. Dbfirs 08:06, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Article review?

Hello. Is there a place where Wikipedia editors can ask for peer review with a article draft? Thanks. Am new. 162.200.70.94 (talk) 21:00, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Yes, if you have posted the draft to Draft: space, and you are ready for review, you can add {{subst:submit}} to the top (including the curly brackets). More generally, see WP:Your first article for how to create an article. —teb728 t c 22:13, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Login Problem

Hi, For some reason I was logged off and I can't seem to log back on. I believe my log in name is correct and my email is for sure. Who should I contact? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:60C4:9300:3130:4C15:7821:F25F (talk) 22:20, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi there. What happens when you try to log in? I'm afraid we can't do much without knowing more details.--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 22:44, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi Skygazer, I try to reset my password with that link that gives you the option of either sending your user name or email address, I chose the email but to no avail, Im not getting an email back at all. I know this email address is solid with Wiki so Im not sure who to contact and I dont want to lose my login name. Any help or advice would be appreciated. p.s. I did try my user name in the same circumstance with no reply from Wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:60C4:9300:5C3E:6D65:EF40:A36A (talk) 23:26, 19 January 2019 (UTC) All is good, I had to sign up again! Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexTabner (talkcontribs) 00:42, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Page with dozens of Wikipedia symbols

I once found a page that listed all of the various Wikipedia symbols. (Or maybe, they are HTML mark-up codes for symbols?) I can't seem to find it anymore. Can someone please provide the correct link? Thanks. For example, it would have an entry like this: {{checkmark}} ... and it would say "this code will produce a checkmark, such as this: ✓ ." It had dozens of these symbols ... like happy faces, sad faces, yes, no, maybe, awards, nominations, win, lose, tie, gold, silver, bronze, etc. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 22:38, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Are you thinking of this List of discussion templates? nwatra (talk) 22:47, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
@Joseph A. Spadaro: There's also this, which might be useful for templates in general.--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 22:49, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
... or else {{Done/See also}}?: Bhunacat10 (talk), 23:01, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
There is no page with all symbols. There are many specialized pages with some symbols. {{Smiley}} and {{Table cell templates}} have many of the items on your list. The latter is mostly for text and color, not symbols. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:03, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
@Joseph A. Spadaro:You may wish to start at the Unicode article. It links to many, many Unicode character set articles. -Arch dude (talk) 16:48, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, all. Those were exactly the pages that I was looking for. Thank you. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 20:55, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

January 20

Express yourself!!

Are you felling unfulfilled, wishing to express your opinion and change the world? Now is your chance to satisfy all your desires to have a say.... Please join the riveting conversation posted here.--Moxy (talk) 04:04, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Mark Vieha... I wish to be removed from Wikipedia.

Please remove any mention of me on Wikipedia. The brief note about me isn't accurate and was without my consent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.155.236.196 (talk) 05:09, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

I have nominated the stub biography for deletion as non-notable, but even if and when the article is deleted, you still will be mentioned 6 places in articles for projects for which you are credited. In any case, please do not remove the content of the article again. —teb728 t c 07:17, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Indexation of my article

I would like to ask that can someone index my article in hoogle search my article is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amit_Rawal Thank you Lumoscoco (talk)lumoscoco —Preceding undated comment added 06:40, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Your page is one of over 3500 awaiting review through the new page patrol process. Until it has been reviewed (or 90 days have elapsed) it will be NOINDEXed. After it has been reviewed, it's up to Google, not Wikipedia, as to how quickly it is indexed. --David Biddulph (talk) 06:59, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Template to return country's continent?

Is there a template already in existence that will return which continent the specified country is in? I have done a search but don't seem able to find one and don't want to invest time making one if it would be redundant. Bungle (talkcontribs) 13:50, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Bungle None that I can find on Wikipedia, but Wikibooks has such a template. You can see the code for it here: Bhunacat10 (talk), 23:16, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
That would be excellent, except there's no documentation as far as I can see. What are the 2nd and 3rd parameters? Black Kite (talk) 23:19, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
@Bungle: Did you see b:Template:Continent/doc? —teb728 t c 03:37, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Teutonic Order

I am not experimenting, I'm trying to re-enter information on our order which has been deleted but shouldn't have been.

Natasha Crist — Preceding unsigned comment added by Natasha Crist (talkcontribs) 17:14, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Your edits were reverted because they were malformatted & broke the hatnote and the infobox. You refer to "our order" so you need to read about conflict of interest, and the mandatory provisions regarding paid editing. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:22, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

list of authors and editors of an article . . .

Is there a way to get a list of all authors and editors who have worked on an article? Albretch Mueller (talk) 22:02, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

@Albretch Mueller: yes, there is. See Help:Page History. L293D ( • ) 22:16, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Harv error - please help

Could someone please help me with the harv error at German submarine U-301? The problem is with ref 1. Thanks. L293D ( • ) 22:16, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

I see that you fixed it. —teb728 t c 22:23, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

I need a little bit of help with an article and its sources.

Note: The following copied from the help desk talk page. Eagleash (talk) 23:33, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi,

I'm from Germany and this my reflect my rather bad English. I have a problem with this rather small article /wiki/Hugo_Schmeisser for those who don't know he is a German gun designer and there is a certain group of people making one claim about him over and over again, some driven by political standpoints.

The Claim is, that he was working on the famous AK-47 rifle while in Russia, but this claim is not only not backed* by proven to be false by its own biography and the bis text book written on the topic.

  • But the problem is, that one not so well written book "The AK-47: Kalashnikov-series assault rifles by Gordon L. Rottman" makes this false claim and that this book has been published by Osprey a publisher with some reputation.

My Problem is now, that I was asked to give some source that clearly say "Schmeisser has not worked on the AK-47", but how am I supposed to do so? I can prove a negative claim, I can only mention the big Text Books on the Topic like Ezells "the AK-47 Story" or "AK-47: THE GRIM REAPER, 2ND EDITION" by Frank Iannamico not talking about it.

How I can I deal with this Problem? --Daniel Helmut (talk) 23:02, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

  • The fact that he worked on AK-47 rifles is an exceptional claim. WP:EXCEPTIONAL is very clear that multiple reliable sources, and not just one single one, have to be provided to prove that he was working on the said rifles. If such multiple sources do not exist and only a single one does, the claim does not belong to the article and should be removed. The onus is not on you but on the editors wishing to include the information to provide the said multiple sources. If you run into more problems, follow dispute resolution or write back to me or here for more help. Thanks, Lourdes 03:35, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

January 21

Is there then a way to download a dump of wikipedia pages and another separate one from their discussions?

BTW: from the little corner from which I see reality, I can't see how to continue a thread, even though I see other people doing it.
Great! This is exactly what I need.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Semiotics&offset=&limit=500&action=history

I have a few more questions. Let me explain first the background of what I have in mind in order to make my objectives a bit clearer. I research on semiotics/corpora and one of the aspects that interest me about communication is its multimodality and as part of its multimodality, people's "finger" (the patterns that people display as they communicate (during WWI individuals operating telegraphs could be fully reliably identified by their keying patterns, about which they were not even conscious)).
Using as example the wikipedia page about semiotics:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiotics

You get the back and forths of users as they edit the page from

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Semiotics

and the archives:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Semiotics/Archives/ {2015, 2014, 2013, 2012}

So, I need snapshots of:
1) wikipedia pages
2) Talks (current and archived ones)
3) their history (which you could stratify from §2 anyway)
I was checking out the dumps and I am having a hard time making sense of them. Writing some script to hit wikipedia millions of times doesn't make any sense either.
Any idea about how could I get wikipedia sources in a relatively sane and sensical way?

Albretch Mueller (talk) 02:14, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Re : question regarding submitting info

Hi there,

I wondered how I can submit info about myself in Wikipedia? is that possible? I am a Visual Artist.

Kind regards Fiona Maclean — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.57.51.20 (talk) 06:02, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Normally, writing about yourself is discouraged. If you are really notable someone will write an article about you at some point. Beeblebrox (talk) 06:23, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

why my articles is rejected

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronsolanki (talkcontribs) 06:15, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

@Ronsolanki: Your sandbox was nominated for speedy deletion because it serves only to promote the subject. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not an advertising medium. —teb728 t c 06:34, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
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