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September 20

Password

Suddenly my password is not acceptable. We'll leave that for now but...

The message from Wikipedia is choose a 'more unique password'. You cannot have more unique. Either it is or it isn't. Not an error that should be on Wikipedia.Cannonmc (talk) 02:53, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Besides the obvious English error of "more unique" (they should have said "less common"), you have no idea whether your password is unique if you don't know my password (and every other password).
Per meta:Password policy your password:
  • Must be at least 8 characters
  • Must not be in the 100,000 most popular passwords (as defined by the Password Blacklist library)
  • Must not be the same as the username
You can read the list of the 100,000 most popular passwords here:[1] (looks like "123456" is now more popular than "password" or "qwerty").
Just use "Swordfish" (1171 on the list) as your password. They will never guess that one.[2] --Guy Macon (talk) 04:08, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
The message is MediaWiki:Passwordinlargeblacklist. A similar message at MediaWiki:Passwordtoopopular said "more unique" earlier but was changed [3] at phab:T177018. "more unique" is a common term and there are different opinions about it. See e.g. [4] or many other discussions found with Google. Language changes and unique is often used to mean unusual. If the only correct meaning of a word was the original meaning or the logical meaning based on how the word was formed then a large part of English (and probably all human languages) would be wrong. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:59, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Primehunter makes a very good point. This may very well be one of those words that is in the middle of changing meaning. Still, I do favor some amount of pushback when someone starts trying to change the meaning of a word. It hinders communication if the meanings change too often or too quickly. Yes, you can decide to use non-standard fleemishes and the reader can still gloork the meaning from the context, but there ix a limit; If too many ot the vleeps are changed, it becomes harder and qixer to fllf what the wethcz is blorping, and evenually izs is bkb longer possible to ghilred frok at wifx. Dnighth? Ngfipht yk ur! Uvq the hhvd or hnnngh. Blorgk? Blorgk! Blorgkity-blorgk!!!! --Guy Macon (talk) 13:11, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Risk of confusion depends on context. It's hard to misunderstand "Please choose a more unique password". If it had said "Please choose a unique password" then users might think it had to be the only one, e.g. different from any alternative accounts. Unusual is mentioned as one of the meanings in the three online dictionaries I tried: wikt:unique, https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/unique, https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unique. See also https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/very-unique-and-absolute-adjectives. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:07, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
We could try "Yo bruv, your password is well minging, sort it!" instead. All words found in dictionaries, and used in a readily understandable way. DuncanHill (talk) 14:47, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Well ... since "unique" means something different to different people, "unique" is no longer unique -- Oh! the irony. —2606:A000:1126:28D:304D:E8A1:FEED:60B5 (talk) 17:46, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Obvious it should read "most uniquiest", so that even a quantum supercomputer won't be able to crack it, because the WP:CABAL demands it. Clarityfiend (talk) 18:58, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

A Glitch

Hello there,

I created this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_A._Ball_(mathematician). Everything was alright until I noticed just now that a photo of some other person appears when I search for this page on google. However, whenever I am actually on the wikipedia page of Joseph A Ball (mathematician) (i.e., the page sited above), the right photo of the person appears. Could you please look into the matter?

Thanks! Sincerely, Haripada Sau. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Haripadasau215 (talkcontribs) 04:10, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

@Haripadasau215: Hello, Google draws information from many sources and often displays it in a way that implies it comes from Wikipedia. We have no control over what Google displays. There is a feedback link at the bottom of the panel in the search results. (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 04:17, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Downton Abbey

In the above page there is a "Crawley family tree" which appears to be from another "wiki" page. The name of the second wife of Baron Merton is Baroness Merton (formerly Mrs Crawley nee Isobel Turnbull. Upon Isobel's second marriage to Lord Merton she became Lady Merton/Baroness Merton - NOT Lady Isobel Grey (she is not the daughter of an earl). The references cited are correct but the titles displayed are wrong. I have corrected this information on the wiki page but it is not showing. Please fix up. Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 04:26, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

@Srbernadette: There no edits by you showing in the recent page history. Did you 'save' the page correctly? Eagleash (talk) 04:34, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Found the template - all good now - thanks
I created the family tree here on Wikipedia for our article. It is NOT from a fan page. PBS challenged the template for verification and all names must have a reliable source. No, the character of Isobel is not Baroness Merton. She is simply the Lady Merton. It was the Downton Wiki that came up with that and is not in any part of the Downton Abbey series or the film. All of the series books (that mention this) and film companion book state clearly Lord and Lady Merton. I have reverted that...again as original research and fan cruft. Please see the Downton Abbey (film) talk page for the full explanation.--Mark Miller (talk) 04:07, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
Here is the page. It's a template; Template:Downton Abbey family tree.--Mark Miller (talk) 04:12, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Spelling name error

In the entry for Performance Poetry Australia (Australian performance poetry) the name Grant Caldwell is wrongly listed as 'Grant Caldwll' i.e. "The 1980s saw a greater development in performed poetry, with more professional poets earning their living by poeting, Geoff Goodfellow joined Jenny Boult in South Australia, komninos, Myron Lysenko, Liz Hall, Billy Marshall Stoneking, Lauren Williams, Kerry Scuffins, Kerry Loughrey, Carmel Bird, in Melbourne, Grant Caldwll, Chris Mansell, Les Wicks and Steven Herrick in Sydney"

Also is there any simple way I can add a complete item for Grant Caldwell on Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.250.0.127 (talkcontribs) 2019-09-20T08:27:22 (UTC)

Hello, IP user, and welcome to Wikipedia. For an uncontroversial correction like that, you can just go ahead and edit it: this is the encyclopaedia anyone can edit.
As for creating and article about Caldwell: anybody is welcome to add an article to the encyclopaedia, provided the subject is notable - which generally means that there is enough reliably published material about the subject, by people unconnected with the subject, to base an article on; but creating a new article is quite difficult, and I don't recommend if for new editors. I suggest you have a look at the "notability" page I linked to, and see if you can find enough published material about him to make an article possible (remember that nothing published by him, or by his associates, employers, or publishers, will count). If not, then it is not worth spending any more time on at present.
If you do find the material, you could make a request at requested articles (but the uptake is not good there); or you could try and interest somebody at WT:WikiProject Poetry or WT:WikiProject Australia in working with you. Or if you're feeling bold, you could read your first article, and try yourself (but if you're going to take that route, I advise you to create an account, and spend a few weeks improving existing articles first). --ColinFine (talk) 08:06, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi IP user, I have taken the liberty of adding a wikilink to Australian performance poetry in your post and correcting the typo in the article. TSventon (talk) 09:30, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Change Photo On Company Profile on Wiki

Dear all,

please advise how I can proceed with subject matter for Lebanese Air Transport.

With kind regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nadine Bolbol (talkcontribs) 08:12, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

First, please read WP:PAID and WP:COI. Secondly, I have updated the logo for you - I assume this is what you wanted. ~~ OxonAlex - talk 09:07, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
The article is Lebanese Air Transport ~~ OxonAlex - talk 09:08, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Change the date of birth-Eric Martin

The Eric Martin page on Wikipedia says that he was born in 10/10/1960 while actually he was born in 10/10/1956. I don´t see the "edit source" link for editing the section where this mistake is located. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tagomauro (talkcontribs) 12:44, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

What is the published reliable source to confirm the 1956 date? --David Biddulph (talk) 12:58, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Presumably this relates to Eric Martin (musician). His birth date is currently uncited as far as I can see, but I found this on allmusic confirming the date that's in the article. I don't know whether that counts as a WP:RS. AndrewWTaylor (talk) 13:16, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
The archived Geocities site also says 1960. This is not a reliable source either, but unless we get a better source, we can't make the change. Dbfirs 14:53, 20 September 2019 (UTC)


I´ve seen his passport when he applied for a visa, but you can also check this website and you´ll see a bunch of names and d.o.b. Enter his name, Eric Lee Martin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tagomauro (talkcontribs) 16:49, 20 September 2019 (UTC) http://migranteweb.mte.gov.br/migranteweb/publico/consultarProcessoInternet/consultarProcesso.seam# — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tagomauro (talkcontribs) 16:49, 20 September 2019 (UTC) then scroll down and click Imprimir Estrangeiro. Check the downloaded file — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tagomauro (talkcontribs) 16:51, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

How to separate column entries from column entries inside wikicode of a wikitable?

If it is impossible, please note so. For example, take these wikitables, I want them to be combined horizontally, but see the problem below.

Set A
Person 1
Person 2
Person 3
Person 4
Person 5
Set B
Person 6
Person 7
Person 8
Person 9
Person 10

The problem is I want it to look like the following, but I want Persons 1-5, 6-10, etc. in the same area in the wikicode. Note that I have many more columns and rows in my real wikitable.

Set A Set B Set C ..
Person 1 Person 6 Person 11 ..
Person 2 Person 7 Person 12 ..
Person 3 Person 8 Person 13 ..
Person 4 Person 9 Person 14 ..
Person 5 Person 10 Person 15 ..
{| class="wikitable"
! Set A !! Set B !! Set C
|-
| Person 1 || Person 6 || Jake the Baker ..
|-
| Person 2 || Person 7 || Russ Megalodon Amora ..
|-
| Person 3 || Person 8 || Short Name ..
|-
| Person 4 || Person 9 || Long Nameeeeeee Hereeeeee Very Long ..
|-
| Person 5 || Person 10 || Peter ..
|}

The above table is the only way I see how to make the table, but I want Persons 1-5, 6-10, 11-15, etc. grouped together, and not Persons {1,6,11,..} , {2,7,12,..} , etc. grouped in the wikicode, since filling each person's name only makes sense vertically for me. And also note that each person name is of variable length, so it is not as tidy as the above table to visually see Persons 1-5, 6-10, etc.

If it is impossible to separate Persons 1-5 from Persons 6-10, etc. in the wikicode, please post that as the answer. WinterSpw (talk) 18:23, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

@WinterSpw: I'm afraid I'm not following what you are asking. I'm not sure what you mean when you say "the same area of the wikicode." Can you put it in Excel the way you want it and upload a screenshot? TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 18:41, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Theoretically you can nest one table inside another table using syntax with <tr>, <td> tags. See Help:Table#Other_table_syntax. Ruslik_Zero 18:43, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
@Timtempleton: I mean something like the following pseudocode (note it is pseudocode), to separate column entries from column entries:
{| class="wikitable"
! Set A !! Set B !! Set C
|-
| code saying first column has the following people
| Person 1
| Person 2
| Person 3
| Person 4
| Person 5
|-
| code saying second column has the following people
| Person 6
| Person 7
| Person 8
| Person 9
| Person 10
|-
| etc. hopefully this is more understandable what I want.
|}
WinterSpw (talk) 19:22, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Like this, WinterSpw?
Set A Set B Set C

Person 1
Person 2
Person 3
Person 4
Person 5

Person 6
Person 7
Person 8
Person 9
Person 10

(See the source for how I did it) --ColinFine (talk) 22:17, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Ooh! This is a nice implementation, this might work. ColinFine But it doesn't have the line dividers for each row, so I guess I'll think about my wikitable some more. WinterSpw (talk) 01:46, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Adding photos

Hi, how do I add a photo to a current article. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by RossInnes (talkcontribs) 20:11, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

@RossInnes: Please see WP:UPLOAD for a guide to adding images. Please free to come back here if you encounter difficulty. Eagleash (talk) 21:19, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

September 21

Making 4th tier headings more accessible...

Hi gals and guys.

In corneal transplantation, the subheadings Deep anterior lamellar keratoplasty and Endothelial keratoplasty are important headings. As it currently stands, they do not have a heading in the 'contents' box of the article. How do I give them one? Unfortunately, it is important to preserve the current hierarchy. ie, both of these headings do need to remain children of the lamella keratoplasty parent.

I'd appreciate your advice.

Thanks,

Vitreology talk 07:10, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

According to H:LIMITTOC it should have defaulted to showing all levels, but as it didn't I've added {{TOC limit|4}}. --David Biddulph (talk) 07:37, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
There was a {{TOC limit|3}} there already. I've removed both of them so that the default behaviour takes effect. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:10, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
John of Reading, David Biddulph, Thank you both
Vitreology talk 12:11, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Broken article Greta Thunberg

When i press the edit button on the Greta Thunberg article it changes from pending changes when i can request a edit but it needs to wait for approval to semi protected where I cannot request a edit and i saw a typo and was going to fix it but cannot fix it due to this bug not sure if it is supposed to be pending changes or semi protected but regardless it needs to be fixed

The article is semi protected - you have to use the talk page to request edits, using the Edit semi-protected template. ~~ OxonAlex - talk 10:31, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
Although the log shows it was only moved up to semi protection this morning, so some sort of caching error could explain showing as pending changes, but this isn't my area of knowledge. ~~ OxonAlex - talk 10:33, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

User:1Santoniojones

Can somebody tag this page as spam please? This site won't let me do it myself. 89.240.138.151 (talk) 11:32, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Nominated for speedy deletion. David J Johnson (talk) 11:46, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
Thank you. 89.240.138.151 (talk) 11:48, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Removing speedy deletion tag

I wonder if anyone could check Timeline of computing 2020–29 article which has any sufficient content and I nominated it for speedy deletion but the deletion tag was removed by user:Tracy Von Doom?Saff V. (talk) 11:44, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Huh, second time that von Doom lady has appeared in front of me (I saw them last night after we both edited 2019 Karbala bombing aswell). They have by their own claims had at least four accounts blocked for socking, but deny guilt. It's all a bit weird. 89.240.138.151 (talk) 11:55, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Saket Modi

Hi there,

I recently noticed that Saket Modi's page has been redirected to Lucidius by Winged Blades of Godric stating WP:NOPAGE whom I tried to reach out at the talk page and left messages with no answer (Ref. 1). I think WP:NOPAGE does not apply here as the topic has received significant coverage in multiple reliable sources and is suitable for a stand-along page per WP:SIGCOV

The topic has been covered by various leading publishers including The Economic Times, Business Standard, Businessworld, Mint (newspaper), Forbes India and clearly passes the WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG.

I will be so grateful if anyone could review Draft:Saket Modi again and help with this....thanks a ton. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2402:3A80:643:1AAA:FD42:1F1:CB96:643E (talk) 14:44, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

How to keep text together

what is the syntax to prevent a string of characters being split by a new line? Newwhist (talk) 15:04, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

You can use {{Nowrap}}, following the instructions on the template page. Deor (talk) 15:09, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
Thanks - found it. Newwhist (talk) 15:26, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

un-retire?

I retired from Wikipedia years ago and was considering coming back, just to fix small issues like grammar & sentence clarity. Can one "un-retire"? Thanks.Special-T (talk) 19:01, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

@Special-T: Yes, you can: "Users who have retired may return at any point" (Wikipedia:Retiring) -- John of Reading (talk) 19:05, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
@Special-T: Certainly. Just removed the "retired" banner from your user page, and start editing. RudolfRed (talk) 19:06, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
With three unretires, you get a fourth one absolutely free (shipping and handling extra). Clarityfiend (talk) 18:47, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Getting rid of the column on the right-hand side

I'm using the timeless skin for wikipedia, and I know that there's a way to get rid of the column on the right hand side (the column that says things like the categories a page is in, "what links here", or "print" link), but what is it? Can someone tell me how to get rid of it? Thanks!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Aven13 (talkcontribs) 21 September 2019 20:26 (UTC)

@Aven13: You can simply make your browser window smaller. Unlike vector, timeless is a responsive skin, which means that The position of the elements will be changed depending on the available width. Yust try it out. Other ways would probably involve Javascript, because normal users css can't affect things outside of the portal frame, but I can't test this right now because I'm currently on mobile and aren't able to see what the exact style definitions in the skin are. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 05:37, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
@Aven13: Add the following: #mw-related-navigation{display: none;} to one of your CSS files e.g. timeless.css. Poveglia (talk) 13:29, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Editing in discussion with others

Hi, I was going back and forth with an editor to edit a page, and he hasn't come back to it.... What do I do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndrewNueberger (talkcontribs) 20:40, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Your draft has been submitted. All you need to do now is wait patiently for review. In the meantime, that editor may give you further feedback.--Quisqualis (talk) 02:26, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

unknowns in table

If one wanted to add a column to this table using the visual editor, how does one get 'unknown'(s) to appear in the cells in the same format that appear elsewhere in that table? Copy and paste from cell to cell doesn’t seem to work. Humanengr (talk) 22:16, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Never mind — a balloon finally showed (though only briefly) saying this had to be edited in source mode. I'll handle it that way. Humanengr (talk) 04:59, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
@Humanengr: Unfortunately the Visual Editor is not yet able to handle many of the tasks the normal editor can. See Wikipedia:VisualEditor#Limitations for more info. Poveglia (talk) 19:05, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

September 22

New article is invisible to internet/Google searches, even after approval and categorization

I created Cannon Beach Christian Conference Center two weeks ago and it remains invisible to search engines. How do I fix this? It's easier to find the logo image than the article. Zero results and only bots viewing the page 1-2/day. Other articles I have created become visible and searchable almost immediately, so I must be doing something wrong. Rename the article? Thanks! Luke Kindred (talk) 00:41, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

@Luke Kindred: New articles are not indexed by search engines until they have been reviewed, or for 90 days, whichever is the shorter period. There are currently over 5,000 pages awaiting review. Please be patient. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 04:58, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

I understand, respect the backlog. and have also tried to help (as much as I can under 500 edits). But seeing that another page I created less than two hours ago was already reviewed and now appears in search results I am starting to believe that the system is failing somehow or revealing some kind of bias against religious / Christian themed articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luke Kindred (talkcontribs) 07:17, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Luke Kindred. Reviews are not done in chronological order. Reviewers are volunteers with some expertise in referencing and in WP:Notability. They review articles in any order, and thus, I suspect, there is a bias, but it is not against religion. The bias will be towards articles that have independent references in WP:Reliable sources. If most of the references are to the subject's own website or to brief mentions in "trade magazines" and local papers, then notability in the Wikipedia sense will be borderline, and reviewers might choose to review another article. The difficulty may be compounded by the fact that some of your references are unavailable on-line to some reviewers for legal reasons, There is no deadline in Wikipedia. While you are waiting for review, you are free to find and add better references. Dbfirs 07:41, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Léonce Ndikumana. Born: 1959

Leonce Ndikumana (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

My birth date on Wikipedia is incorrect. It should be 1959, not 1950.

The bio page should read:

Born: 1959 (age 60 years), Burundi— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:180:8200:5060:cd79:c077:93a6:11be (talkcontribs) 22 September 2019 03:12 (UTC)

Hello, I cannot see a DoB in the article? However, Google search results do show a DoB. Google draws information from many sources and often displays it in a way that implies it comes from Wikipedia. We have no control over what Google displays. There is a feedback link at the foot of the panel in the search results. For future reference, requests should be made at the article talk page. (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 05:05, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
If it is requested that a DoB be added to the page, it will require a reliable source. Eagleash (talk) 06:35, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
The WikiData page had 1950, referencing a a VIAF page. But I can't see any birth date on that page, so have removed the birth date from WikiData. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:18, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
@John of Reading: Thanks John, it completely 'slipped my mind' to look at Wikidata. Eagleash (talk) 10:03, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Anti-Japanese sentiment in Korea

Dear Sir and Madam,

I would like to tell you this article isn't correct. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Japanese_sentiment_in_Korea

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I'll attach pictures why these sentences are wrong. Japanese government taught Korean language in the schools during war time. Here's textbooks what students used for back then.

Please remove these sentences if you see the truth and right organization. And, please do not accept pro-JP opinions. Most of them don't use any evidences such as I attached pictures.

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Thank you, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Usagidot (talkcontribs) 09:36, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Usagidot. The place to discuss this is on the talk page Talk:Anti-Japanese_sentiment_in_Korea. But I would caustion you that Wikipedia doesn't accept original research: to carry your argument you will need to find reliable secondary sources which put forward the argument you want to make. I also suspect that the images you have uploaded are copyright violations: the photos may be your own work, but the originals are surely not. --ColinFine (talk) 11:31, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
The penalty of death claim sounds extreme. It was added by an IP in 2007.[5] I have removed it [6] and restored "formally" about the language ban from an editor who has apparently read the source.[7] PrimeHunter (talk) 11:45, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your reply, I am a new to Wikipedia, so I misunderstood where to ask. I'll check secondary sources. Then, I'll put something on the right page. However, as you might know, it is not easy to find out documents in English for back then. I guess it wouldn't be not English sources if I show you next time. Perhaps, people who edit wikipedia on this page use some kind of documents, but I think they use it what were not written in around 1945. There are a lot of errors if it was written recently. Especially if the sources are books. Thank you, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Usagidot (talkcontribs) 22:53, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Are Bible translations primary or secondary sources?

- are translations of the Bible considered primary or secondary sources? - I couldn't find anything in the guidelines - a new editor is claiming that Bible translations are peer-reviewed scholarly works and therefore reliable secondary published sources - Epinoia (talk) 17:39, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

They are primary sources. "Examples of primary sources include [...] religious scripture". Would recommend finding a quote from the scholarly sources cited to settle this. (Link to discussion in question)Thjarkur (talk) 18:41, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
- thanks, that's clear - but sometimes translators make comments about why a particular passage was translated in a certain way and this commentary is printed with the text - would those commentaries by the translators be considered primary sources (as part of the translation) or secondary sources? - Epinoia (talk) 02:41, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
- my gut feeling on this is that if the commentary is published with the text as line notes or footnotes, then it would count a primary because it is part of the translation process, but if the commentary is published in a separate volume, then it would be considered a secondary source - does that make sense? - is there a guideline on this? - thanks - Epinoia (talk) 04:47, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Adding a New Interview

Can this background interview by Mike Foldes, managing editor, please be added to References of Carol Smallwood entry? It provides information that volunteers have said was lacking so far; I was advised not to enter anything myself.

September-October 2019; Volume 15 Number 5 https://www.ragazine.cc/smallwood-interview/

Carol Smallwood (talk) 19:51, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

No. Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject says about herself, but instead it wants published reliable secondary sources. --David Biddulph (talk) 20:00, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Question about placing repetitive footnotes in a Wikitable

If I want to place a "footnote" at the bottom of a Wikitable, I use the following code within the Wikitable: for example, {{efn-ua|This is the text of the footnote. This footnote will appear at the bottom of the table.}}. Then, at the bottom of the Wikitable, I place the code that says: {{Notelist-ua}}. This will then "number" all of the footnotes (with letters, actually) as footnote A, B, C, D, E, F, etc. My question: what is the way to make several entries have the same exact footnote, without having to have that same exact footnote repeated several times? So, in the above example (footnotes A, B, C, D, E, and F) ... what if footnotes A, C, and E were the same exact footnote (and I did not want it to be repeated three times)? What I'd essentially have, then, is footnote A, B, A again, C, A again, and D. Is there a way to do this? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 20:53, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

If you read Template:efn-ua you will see that it says: "{{efn}} supports |name= and |group=, which work the same as the parameters in <ref>. Do not enclose values in quotes." If you don't know how |name works in references, please read WP:REFNAME. --David Biddulph (talk) 03:37, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. I read both links. I can't make heads or tails of any of that. Can you offer an example of how it would work? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 03:48, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Here is an example in one of my "Sandbox" pages: User talk:Joseph A. Spadaro/Sandbox/Page125. At the top of the page is my ORIGINAL table. At the bottom of the page is a section for MODIFICATIONS to the original table. In this table, I have three separate footnotes (Footnotes D, E, and F). They all say the same exact thing. Is there some way to make those last three films still each have a footnote listed in the "Notes" column ... but that the footnote text itself is only listed once at the bottom of the table (instead of repeating the same Note three times)? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 03:57, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

I guess what I am saying is this. I want the last three films (film number 23, 24, and 25) to each have a Footnote "D" ... and that there be no Footnote E or F. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 04:02, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
The examples (with markup) in the documentation at Template:efn-ua seemed clear to me. I have updated your sandbox example accordingly. --David Biddulph (talk) 04:06, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Great! Thanks! Exactly what I was looking to do. Thank you! (P.S. I find that computer code documentation on Wikipedia is very hard to follow, unless you already know what you are doing.) Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 04:12, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

September 23

Mass editing multiple articles at once

Hi,

I'd like to add one category to multiple articles at once. Is this possible?

Specifically, I'd like to add the category {{Category:Members of the 22nd Knesset (2019–)}} to the Blue & White and Likud members listed in this template: {{Template:Current MKs}}. Thanks for any help. David O. Johnson (talk) 01:18, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

@David O. Johnson: AFAIK this would require a user script. Technical it would still be separated edits, meaning that a separate token is required for each. That significantly increases the amount of time required to do that, since there is a Limit on the max number of requests. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 05:17, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply. I'll look into it. David O. Johnson (talk) 05:23, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
@David O. Johnson: Have a look at Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Tasks. The people there will use WP:AWB. Poveglia (talk) 05:49, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
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